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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Look at it this way, better late then never. |
Actually, I think all these Republican candidates are just saying whatever it takes to appeal to the masses of people so they can get elected. I don't believe for one moment that they have any true desire to change America's dependance on non-renewable and imported energy resources. Republicans have always been backed by big businesses involved in auto-manufacturing, imported oil revenues and such industries as coal mining. They are worried about jobs. Republicans have always been about jobs and economy versus environment. And anyone who thinks that a Repubican is going to change America's dependance on imported oil doesn't understand how Republicans or the world economy operate. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Only a truly free market in transportation, infrastructure, housing and energy can make America energy independent and save the environment. And only Ron Paul has a plan to do just that. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Great news for America. Romney is out.
This thread should be retitled:
"Romney is out. Now there are three. Hurray!"
no need for sighs, this is great news. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Look at it this way, better late then never. |
Actually, I think all these Republican candidates are just saying whatever it takes to appeal to the masses of people so they can get elected. I don't believe for one moment that they have any true desire to change America's dependance on non-renewable and imported energy resources. Republicans have always been backed by big businesses involved in auto-manufacturing, imported oil revenues and such industries as coal mining. They are worried about jobs. Republicans have always been about jobs and economy versus environment. And anyone who thinks that a Repubican is going to change America's dependance on imported oil doesn't understand how Republicans or the world economy operate. |
You are preaching to the choir. You don't have to convince me, I agree with you.
The thing I worry about is some kind of external problems (Iraq, terrorism, other Middle East issues) getting worse, which will throw more support behind McCain or Clinton |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
| I hope Obama does some bold things as president, my main hope is some redistribution of wealth from the rich to the not so rich. If that's done via tax burden that's fine by me. |
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| I tend to think less of people who don't absolutely adore that show |
Mos def, although this season is making my eyebrows raise a lot. A little over the top if you ask me. We'll see how it turns out though. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| In regards to energy policy, I honestly think McCain is more likely to do something than Hillary. of course i'm mr. cynical when it comes to hillary so... |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| wannago wrote: |
| Czarjorge wrote: |
| I hope Obama does some bold things as president, my main hope is some redistribution of wealth from the rich to the not so rich. If that's done via tax burden that's fine by me. |
So, you want Obama to be a socialist. Lovely. |
No, more pure Communist would be lovely though. Unlikely if not impossible.
BTW, it's not exactly socialist to shift the tax burden to the rich. Warren Buffet, a rich, white fiscal conservative, has said that the government should take quality of life into account when determining tax liability.
If you make 30 million dollars a year you should lose at least 10. The lower income brackets should consistently get a refund of a few hundred dollars. It would drive the economy. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
| wannago wrote: |
| Czarjorge wrote: |
| I hope Obama does some bold things as president, my main hope is some redistribution of wealth from the rich to the not so rich. If that's done via tax burden that's fine by me. |
So, you want Obama to be a socialist. Lovely. |
No, more pure Communist would be lovely though. |
Really?
The tax burden now is unfairly distributed to the working/lower classes. Buffett pays a lower % than his secretary. It isn't marxist or socialist to argue for the hyper-wealthy to pay more than the poor. In fact, I'd prefer the poor and working class to pay nothing at all in income taxes. |
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wannago
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| In fact, I'd prefer the poor and working class to pay nothing at all in income taxes. |
Hell, I'd prefer no one pay income taxes period. Taxing income is, at best, stifling to innovation and productivity and, at worst in the U.S., illegal. This is the only part of Huckabee's campaign that appeals to me.
Why is it that people who make more income need to be punished for the sake of people who don't (or won't) make a larger income? |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
Great news for America. Romney is out.
This thread should be retitled:
"Romney is out. Now there are three. Hurray!"
no need for sighs, this is great news. |
Actually the original post was supposed to be about apostrophe usage (see the first image), but I can see how everybody thought it was just about Romney dropping out. Probably more interesting that way anyway.  |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| wannago wrote: |
Hell, I'd prefer no one pay income taxes period.
Why is it that people who make more income need to be punished for the sake of people who don't (or won't) make a larger income? |
I agree about income taxes. I'd rather the state tax things that are bad (pollution, smokes, booze, pot, crack...) than things we want (productive activities).
Why should the rich pay more? Well, I don't think they should in relative terms. In absolute terms, of course they should and will pay more. Buffett pays less of a % in income taxes than his secretary. Asserting that this is just retarded is hardly marxist. It is sensible. If we are going to have an income tax, it should be zero % for the poor/working classes and phased up from the middle/upper middle classes. 33.33%, as was suggested, seems quite a bit high. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
Great news for America. Romney is out.
This thread should be retitled:
"Romney is out. Now there are three. Hurray!"
no need for sighs, this is great news. |
Actually the original post was supposed to be about apostrophe usage (see the first image), but I can see how everybody thought it was just about Romney dropping out. Probably more interesting that way anyway. |
Ah, I see the apostrophe. I've trained myself to overlook grammar and spelling in the Current Events threads, including my own. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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I really don't have much of an opinion about Romney dropping out other than the fact that I think he's a better candidate than Huckabee or McCain. I will say this,
If you thought Bush was bad, just wait and see. McCain would be much worse. Think in terms of WW3 with nuclear bombs and Iran. If you thought this war with Iraq is bad, just WAIT! You haven't seen anything YET. I think Republicans had better hope and pray for Democrat this time. They got their way with Bush on two elections. They got their way with the war in Iraq. Did it make them happy. HELL NO! |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
| Neither Obama or Hillary are that LIBERAL (boogie boogie). It seems you're so far right that the middle seems to be the left to you. |
Obama has one of the most liberal voting records in the senate .
You do know MCCain is getting trouble from the right.
Anyway I dunno I voted for Clinton 2x and Gore once. 
I would say it only looks that way cause this is a radical board. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Actually the original post was supposed to be about apostrophe usage (see the first image), but I can see how everybody thought it was just about Romney dropping out. Probably more interesting that way anyway. |
Are you absolutely sure that "suspend" isn't Romney's last name? A lot of people have two last names these days. I guess not since it wasn't capitalized. But then if he can't use an apostrophe correctly, he may not be able to capitalize all that well either.
But really, would you want a president who couldn't properly use an apostrophe? Sure, George Bush cannot speak correctly but we are talking about writing here.
I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Ron Paul has NEVER misused an apostrophe.  |
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