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Lacie firewire external hard drives *update*
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i made it because the old map on the lemon's guide sticky needed to be updated with current technology. Smile
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This case has good reviews for it's cooling and quietness.

http://bbs.danawa.com/view.php?nSeq=39463&nGroup=7&nBlogCateSeq1=409

Not cheap, though:

http://search.danawa.com/dsearch.php?cate1=863&cate2=892&cate3=1062&cate4=0&k1=Antec%20MX-1
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thekingofdisco



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking for a firewire 800 7200rpm external HD or case (e.g. lacie quadra 500gb). And am finding it really difficult to find any in Korea.

I have seen some Lacie 800 drives such as the quadra on some korean websites, but for extortionate prices. I also went into yongsan and all the places just had usb2 + firewire400 drives such as the lacie porsche/brick etc. I had a a while to look around the whole area and couldn't find *any* firewire 800 drives!

reason i need 800 is because i'm recording music onto.

any ideas?
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of system are you running?
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thekingofdisco



Joined: 29 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tractor wrote:
what kind of system are you running?


macbook pro. audio work

i would love a FW400 Glyph, they are silent, and are super sturdy... but well it's a bit tough to get them here, unless i go abroad and come back with one, and they're expensive.

a lacie quadra would be fine, the key to an external hard drive for audio is you want something with an oxford bridge chip. These type drives are the most reliable over a firewire connection.

obviously an e-sata card and an external enclosure is an option, but, i'd rather have the FW800 as it's more portable, without using up my one available express card slot and also i can daisy chain the FW drives.

I'm guessing e-sata express cards are reasonably priced here at least?? or is that too wishful thinking?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tractor wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
LaCie 1TB Big Disk Extreme+ Hard Drive

That is one I want to look at, but I don't see it forsale in Korea...

As I use a notebook, I want an external drive with firewire and usb capibility so that I can maximize my slots.

I bought a maxtor external with firewire but the thing is WAY too noisy when I am sleeping.

I've read that the LaCie is very quiet.

If you have a recommendation for a QUIET external 1TB drive, I'd love to hear it.


yea, maxtors are known to be really loud. i have 4x250 GB maxtor drives in my tower, so you can imagine how loud it gets.

here is a list of decibel levels for HDs (select idle noise from the drop down menu).

Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS with NCQ (1000 GB SATA) - 35.9 decibels

Samsung SpinPoint T166 with NCQ (500 GB SATA) - 35.9 decibels ( link is for the 1 terabyte version which has the same noiseguard feature )

this is the only case that supports the SATA interface and has USB/FIREWIRE.




I went and got the USB+IEEE 400 case and a 500GB WD GP drive.

Transferring data from my Maxtor to my WD drive. The Maxtor is noisy as hell...NO SOUND from the WD. I can't wait to sleep more peacefully.
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tractor



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice! i'm tempted to buy that case now.

sleep well Smile
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thekingofdisco wrote:
I'm guessing e-sata express cards are reasonably priced here at least?? or is that too wishful thinking?


I would go with eSATA as the transfer speeds are up to 3 Gbps vs Firewire 800's 800 Mbps. if your planning to do multi-track recording, eSATA is better suited. the expresscard size is not too big.



this was the only one that i saw with os x support.

more info and the cheapest price at raidmall.

@naver
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
This case has good reviews for it's cooling and quietness.

http://bbs.danawa.com/view.php?nSeq=39463&nGroup=7&nBlogCateSeq1=409

Not cheap, though:

http://search.danawa.com/dsearch.php?cate1=863&cate2=892&cate3=1062&cate4=0&k1=Antec%20MX-1


A friend of mine bought that, and I installed her HD in it. It's a wonderful case. Very quiet, and a very good fan. There are actually rubber bands inside to suspend the HDD so it doesn't add noise and vibration.

Gorgeous, too.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so ya know, you can get it cheaper if you show up and pay in cash...those prices they list on the websites are set for those who order online.

Both times I have gone to yongsan and they have given me the goods at a cheaper price.

One thing I noticed yesterday, maybe someone could comment on:

When I chain link another firewire external to my new case, and started moving files from one HD to another, it slowed down the speed to my computer by quite a lot.

I then unplugged the firewire link, and plugged my maxtor directly into a usb slot into my computer, transferred more files and there was no speed interruption between the other firewire HD and my computer...

Any idea on why it slowed down in the firstplace? To move files faster?
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tractor



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
Any idea on why it slowed down in the firstplace? To move files faster?


are you on os x or windows?

what devices do you have chained? 4 pin or 6pin? 6 pin handles power and data, 4 pin only data. if you chain these together, you could experience some problems.

it's recommended to link the fastest device to your computer first and then the slower ones.

firewire creates a unique ID for each device to handle communication with each. so your cpu load should be minimal when transferring and it shouldn't slow things down.
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thekingofdisco



Joined: 29 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tractor wrote:
thekingofdisco wrote:
I'm guessing e-sata express cards are reasonably priced here at least?? or is that too wishful thinking?


I would go with eSATA as the transfer speeds are up to 3 Gbps vs Firewire 800's 800 Mbps. if your planning to do multi-track recording, eSATA is better suited. the expresscard size is not too big.

more info and the cheapest price at raidmall.

@naver


thanks for the link... if that card is ok, it does seem better value to get esata if in korea.... although FW would be great!

will prob go that route and get an esata enclosure, cheers.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tractor wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
Any idea on why it slowed down in the firstplace? To move files faster?


are you on os x or windows?

what devices do you have chained? 4 pin or 6pin? 6 pin handles power and data, 4 pin only data. if you chain these together, you could experience some problems.

it's recommended to link the fastest device to your computer first and then the slower ones.

firewire creates a unique ID for each device to handle communication with each. so your cpu load should be minimal when transferring and it shouldn't slow things down.


OS X and was using the 6 pins. My maxtor drive has its own power supply...as does the nice shiny new case I bought.

I think it might be firewire wants to move files as fast as possible...hence it slows down everything else.
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try the disk test with xbench. set the volume for one of the firewire drives and start. do each test separately and then chained in both orders.

while running xbench, run activity viewer to see how many cpu resources each test takes.

hackintosh?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

**BUMP and UPDATE**


after a bit of running around including printing out and carrying the map posted on this thread - it seems the Lacie Firewire is NOT sold in K as of yet - tho the K company that imports Lacie drives has been trying to import the firewires also.

looks like I'll be ordering one of the internet - unless someone can recommend a comparable portable firewire - ?
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