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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| tfunk wrote: |
1. Confucius was a waygukin.
The idea that Koreans don't respect foreign cultures because of the Confucius way of thinking is paradoxical. |
Marx was jewish. Communist Russia didn't have a great track record of treating jews well. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| tfunk wrote: |
Sorry about the suggestive title, I have to come down to your level and if that's the only thing that's making you read my post then I'm a happy lady. I'm having a hissy fit in my pants right now, philosophizing about everything I can get my hands on.
Here are the results:
1. Confucius was a waygukin.
The idea that Koreans don't respect foreign cultures because of the Confucius way of thinking is paradoxical.
2. Being knowledgeable about culture is considered superior to living according to a culture.
A lot of westerners approach culture as a tourist attraction or entertainment and can distance themselves intellectually and historically from the conditioning of their own cultures. Originally, all cultures were not artifacts in a museum but social life in the present moment. If you think Westeners have more culture than Koreans then you are talking about culture in the past which is kind of like an old man in a wheelchair showing up at a baseball game and saying he could whup everybody's donkey in his heyday.
3. If you met your great great grandfather and had to share a day with him, you wouldn't know what to say or how to relate to him. Sure, you could exchange pleasantries, but you can do that with pretty much everybody.
4. As a human there are less degrees of separation between you and a rapist than you and Thomas Jefferson. If you're proud to be American then you must also be ashamed to be American because selective association is wishful thinking.
5. There's no escaping culture. McDonalds Happy Meals will one day be revered in Holo-Museums.
6. Culture, traditionally, has been exclusive. Museums are full of war machines, clothing that distinguishes people according to their social hierarchy etc. A culture that is inclusive loses it's identity.
7. Westeners enjoy Korea as a novelty but become frustrated when Korean culture doesn't accommodate their outlook of what a society should be.
8. Korea is still at war, psychologically.
The end. Mods, please lock this post and make it a sticky.  |
So... third bottle of the day? |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| twg wrote: |
So... third bottle of the day? |
Nope. Just a beautiful spring morning. |
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lonestarkorea
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| "2 girls 1 cup" is better (google it at own risk for a link) |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| tfunk wrote: |
| The end. Mods, please lock this post and make it a sticky. |
I lol'd.
Moderately insightful as this is, there's simply no way. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| lonestarkorea wrote: |
| "2 girls 1 cup" is better (google it at own risk for a link) |
no normal decent human would seriously suggest that...oh I forgot it is DAVESESLCAFE. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| lonestarkorea wrote: |
| "2 girls 1 cup" is better (google it at own risk for a link) |
It's a coincidence; I've just ordered a book from amazon about copywriting.
"2 girls, 1 cup = lots of fun"
would have been a far better(and relevant) thread title. |
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BreakfastInBed
Joined: 16 Oct 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| tfunk wrote: |
2. Being knowledgeable about culture is considered superior to living according to a culture.
A lot of westerners approach culture as a tourist attraction or entertainment and can distance themselves intellectually and historically from the conditioning of their own cultures. Originally, all cultures were not artifacts in a museum but social life in the present moment. If you think Westeners have more culture than Koreans then you are talking about culture in the past which is kind of like an old man in a wheelchair showing up at a baseball game and saying he could whup everybody's donkey in his heyday.
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Ok, right, I follow you, yes, wait, hold on, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe I flatter myself, but I think I get most of your post. This part, however, is totally incomprehensible. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| BreakfastInBed wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
2. Being knowledgeable about culture is considered superior to living according to a culture.
A lot of westerners approach culture as a tourist attraction or entertainment and can distance themselves intellectually and historically from the conditioning of their own cultures. Originally, all cultures were not artifacts in a museum but social life in the present moment. If you think Westeners have more culture than Koreans then you are talking about culture in the past which is kind of like an old man in a wheelchair showing up at a baseball game and saying he could whup everybody's donkey in his heyday.
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Ok, right, I follow you, yes, wait, hold on, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe I flatter myself, but I think I get most of your post. This part, however, is totally incomprehensible. |
Yes, it's not very coherent. I don't think there's such a thing as one society being more cultural than another society, it all depends on the fashion of the person making the observation. Art in all it's forms have traditionally been metres of culture but walking around the streets of Seoul and getting a whiff of everything, the sights and sounds and idiosyncrasies of life and the objectification of culture seems superficial.
Maybe I'm confusing the word 'culture' with 'life' but I'm sure in a thousand years time people will be queuing up to see a real life re-enactment of the scenes outside a McDonalds at 11pm on a Saturday night. I'm jamming with the culture of Korea but if I have to tell you what that is then I'm at a loss for words. Don't confuse knowledge about something with the thing itself.
Other than that, I'm not really sure what I'm talking about. |
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elzoog
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Two schoolgirls, a tub of cream and an ill-washed spoon. |
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| tfunk wrote: |
Sorry about the suggestive title, I have to come down to your level and if that's the only thing that's making you read my post then I'm a happy lady. I'm having a hissy fit in my pants right now, philosophizing about everything I can get my hands on.
Here are the results:
1. Confucius was a waygukin.
The idea that Koreans don't respect foreign cultures because of the Confucius way of thinking is paradoxical.
2. Being knowledgeable about culture is considered superior to living according to a culture.
A lot of westerners approach culture as a tourist attraction or entertainment and can distance themselves intellectually and historically from the conditioning of their own cultures. Originally, all cultures were not artifacts in a museum but social life in the present moment. If you think Westeners have more culture than Koreans then you are talking about culture in the past which is kind of like an old man in a wheelchair showing up at a baseball game and saying he could whup everybody's donkey in his heyday.
*ect*
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The problem with your analysis is, that being of a certain culture is who you are. So if you can't be proud of your culture, or even like your culture, then you can't be proud of, or even like, yourself.
The thing is, if we could change our culture then that would give us plenty of opportunity for distractions and avoiding problems. Don't like what America does? Well then fine, I'll just be Japanese. What being Japanese is bad too? Well then, I'll just become an Iraqi.
As far as there being less degrees of separation between me and a rapist than there are between me and Thomas Jefferson, thanks for your input. I think I'll go rape someone right now.
Seriously, why don't you spend more time on how we can become better human beings and less time on how much we suck? We are all human. Even Benjamin Franklin wrote about topics such as, how older women are better in bed than younger women. Since you seem to know about the founding fathers of the US, maybe you knew that already though. |
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