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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: Right |
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RACETRAITOR, you are right regarding your statements on the national socialists. I was just giving the definition as it was written in the dictionary without regard to specific nationality. I agree, that definition could aptly apply to practically any nation, people or creed. Just wanted to provide definitions for people who might think to jump in without actually knowing what the terms mean. I know how easy it is to confuse terms when they are not clearly defined for people. Thanks for the clarification.
Definitions from: www.dictionary.com
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: So is Clear on meaning |
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| tob55 wrote: |
Fascist - a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
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Thanks for pointing this out - I take exception to being called this in any serious way. Any "left-leaning" examples that I support would just sound goofy to post right now, but calling somone a fascist is pretty extreme in my book. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: So is Clear on meaning |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
Fascist - a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
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Thanks for pointing this out - I take exception to being called this in any serious way. Any "left-leaning" examples that I support would just sound goofy to post right now, but calling somone a fascist is pretty extreme in my book. |
Maybe it could be seen as a bit pejorative. I would not seriously call a regular person on the right in Canada or the US a fascist. In this country, it is a lot different. The leaders like Park, Chun, and Rhee were obviously fascist, and today's Hannara Party and the new Pro-Park Party are not really fascist in practice, but fascist in ideology. I'm sure Captain Corea identifies with the less fascist party aspects, whatever they may be. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| , I have many friends who are self-declared fascists, national socialists, and fundamentalists. |
Sorry to say this RT because I generally like your posts, but who gives a shit about your friends?
You continually make a major point about the crowd you run with. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I frankly wouldn't give a shit if you hung out with Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp or whoever.
You know what I mean? So you hang with skinheads and whatnot. Who f'in cares? |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: So is Clear on meaning |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
Fascist - a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
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Thanks for pointing this out - I take exception to being called this in any serious way. Any "left-leaning" examples that I support would just sound goofy to post right now, but calling somone a fascist is pretty extreme in my book. |
Maybe it could be seen as a bit pejorative. I would not seriously call a regular person on the right in Canada or the US a fascist. In this country, it is a lot different. The leaders like Park, Chun, and Rhee were obviously fascist, and today's Hannara Party and the new Pro-Park Party are not really fascist in practice, but fascist in ideology. I'm sure Captain Corea identifies with the less fascist party aspects, whatever they may be. |
I've had the comments about being a racist off this fool! 
When the reality is that I have done more on the anti fascism/anti racism
front in one day than RT will ever do in his whole life!
He out throws barbs without any meaning to them... just pat him on the head and tell him to run along.  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| , I have many friends who are self-declared fascists, national socialists, and fundamentalists. |
Sorry to say this RT because I generally like your posts, but who gives a shit about your friends?
You continually make a major point about the crowd you run with. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I frankly wouldn't give a shit if you hung out with Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp or whoever.
You know what I mean? So you hang with skinheads and whatnot. Who f'in cares? |
I think it's somewhat important in that it may be clouding his judgement. I have no doubt that he's hung with some less than savory folk.. and that a lot of them have held very extreme views, but I'm not sure why that always has to be projected on to other people.
Seriously Racetraitor, I know in your above post you've "almost said that I may not be a fascist", but isn't it possible that not everyone runs in those same gutters?
Isn't it possible that people have a wide range of beliefs and calling them names does everyone a disservice? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I actually didn't think you'd object to the term. It very well could be because I'm used to people proudly using those terms.
And bejarano-korea, I think many of your posts have been pretty well racist. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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So, under what circumstances are we allowed to vote in Korea? Isn't it like after 5 years of continuous residence, but only if we are on an F5 visa?
I remember reading a few years ago that Seoul city hall was considering extending local voting rights to expat residents and was looking at the London model.
Along with assured access to big blocks of cheddar and tubes of colgate, I know that politics and voting rights are close to the hearts of all expats in Korea. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: regs for voting |
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| According to the foreigner handbook for spouses of Korean nationals, the F5 people who have their vise for a minimum of 3 years are allowed to vote in the local Gu elections. I believe that is the limit. We are trusted with the city Mayor and Council members, but not with having a say in who will run the Government at the Congressional or Presidential level. That may change over time, but hard to say. At least they give us somewhat of a say in the regional politics that affect our communities. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| kiwiduncan wrote: |
So, under what circumstances are we allowed to vote in Korea? Isn't it like after 5 years of continuous residence, but only if we are on an F5 visa?
I remember reading a few years ago that Seoul city hall was considering extending local voting rights to expat residents and was looking at the London model.
Along with assured access to big blocks of cheddar and tubes of colgate, I know that politics and voting rights are close to the hearts of all expats in Korea. |
I was told when getting my F5 that only Permanent residents (and Korean citizens of course) were eligible to vote in minor local elections. I did not recieve a voting packet for this latest round, and did not expect to (The National assembly is not "local" IMO).
As for a certain amount of "time in", I think that is usually covered by simply having the F5 (you need a certain amount of years here to qualify). |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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I actually didn't think you'd object to the term. It very well could be because I'm used to people proudly using those terms.
And bejarano-korea, I think many of your posts have been pretty well racist. |
So if I find jokes that celebrate the differences between certain cultures funny then I'm a racist? I don't think so mate, try and look up the definition of the term! 
Again, I have done more to fight racism and fascism in one day than you will ever do in your life. Buy and read this book, There is a picture of me inside the book fighting the police during a BNP rally in Burnley. (The guy on the front is the author Dave Hann)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Retreat-Dave-Hann/dp/1903854229/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207814329&sr=1-1
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Could you put a "slightly" option? |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Could you put a "slightly" option? |
Sorry, it looks like once people start responding to the poll we can't go in and change the options. |
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Insidejohnmalkovich
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Pusan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Lee Myung Bak is not nearly conservative enough to reverse the socialization and unionization under the previous administrations. The grand old days of President Park will never return alas.
I predict all the sheep-huggers and bra-burners will be very happy with Korea in ten years. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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naaahhh....the Koreans aren't dumb...they know what they're doing.
It's their country and they seem to be running it better than some other countries (like Serbia).
Even with a majority there's not gonna be a canal. President Lee will be limited by reality.
Realities like
a) the credit crunch
b) the North acting like assholes.
c) Global warming
d) that Taaen oil spill
e) the Nandaymoon gate rebuild
f) English education
g) Korean education
h) the mortgage crunch (Korea has its own issues with that)
i) inflation
j) KBS
k) the fake diploma scandal
l) the fake resume scandal
I wonder, with such a strong majority, will we see floor fights at the legislature? Those were classic. |
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