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rapier
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| It takes a foreigner to properly vet applications- Koreans don't have a clue as judges of good character. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| It takes a foreigner to properly vet applications- Koreans don't have a clue as judges of good character. |
rapier... that's a pretty big generalisation you've got going there. I'm sure that as a hagwon teacher in Korea, this has been your experience and I could accept that, but to make such a generalisation against all Koreans is a bit unfair.
Are talking about being good judges of character in general? Or just for jobs, especially when hiring foreigners? (That might explain all those freaky waygooks in employment  ) |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| waterbaby wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
| It takes a foreigner to properly vet applications- Koreans don't have a clue as judges of good character. |
rapier... that's a pretty big generalisation you've got going there. |
I may not agree with the exaggeration, but I can see the point that rapier is trying to make. It is often difficult to judge a person in general, but it is especially difficult to figure someone out who comes from a different culture. Think about this: how many total whacko foreigners have you met here who seemed quite popular with the locals?
I once worked with a guy who was totally psychotic (alcoholic, violent, and just a total pain in general). The first day he showed up at the school, all the foreign teachers new exactly what kind of person he was just by talking to him for a minute. But, much to our surprise, his students (adults) loved him, and even went out with him in groups to do stuff. However, after a few months, the love-affair was over, and the students complained about him so much that he was fired.
So basically: it took the locals a few months to figure out what all his countrymen knew after knowing him for one minute. There is something to be said for that. Sure, some Koreans may be more perceptive than others, but I think it is generally true that you can't beat a waygook when it comes to figuring out who to hire. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:29 am Post subject: yes |
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It's hard to judge anyone without face to face contact, no matter who isa doing the judging.
I think runners are affected by the hagwon more than anything. My school hasn't had a runner in a long time, because they treat people ok.
Of course there are people who are more prone to running, but of course some people are just quitters in nature. |
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Juggertha
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Basically, I used to do the hiring at my last job. So the inteviewing is not a bother to me. Actually my boss ussualy does an initial interview and then shes asks the applicant if it'd be ok if I gave them a call.
For the most part i'm just there to talk to them on a casual basis. Maybe "feeling them out" where my boss cannot (no matter how good a Koreans english is, it's still good to have a native speaker read between the lines) but also being there for them if they have any questions about the school. Questions that can be answered honestly.
I htink alot of the problems that people encounter in their schools might have been solved if they were able to talk to the native teacher ahead of time. |
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