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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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wow - I don't even know where to begin to address such nonsense and propaganda - clearly you're so far on the dark side you couldn't see the light if it was shining in your face.
perhaps you could explain the current food crisis - the one that's global?
or I'll keep it simple - how about the one in Haiti? having to do with subsidized agriculture having devastated Haiti's production?
the world is safer?? where on earth do you live that you feel safe?!!
the ME is a total mess right now - and threats towards Iran increase every day; even Jimmy Carter can't hold back any more and is speaking out about Israel - the U.S. just flew over Venezuela a few days ago antagonizing them even more - Somalia is burning and is lighting the tinderbox next to Kenya - the U.S. has millions of illegal immigrants and doesn't know how to even begin to address the problem of where they all are and what to do about them -
as for a drop in global terrorism - what the F*CK do you call invading Iraq?? that's one of the WORST cases of terrorism ever!!
Bush and cronies are war criminals and responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians - that's men, women and children - not to mention the downfall of the Republic -
but yes, you are right about one thing - the wealthy do get wealthier
let's see now -
Halliburton
Bechtel
Exxon
Chevron
Royal Dutch Petroleum
Blackwater et al.
the Carlyle Group
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| perhaps you could explain the current food crisis - the one that's global? |
The global food crises, which isn't a crises but a small problem, is the result of 2 droughts (Ukraine and Aus), the push to bio-fuels, an expansion in global money supply (to many dollars chasing to few goods) but most of all the rapid increase in incomes in Asia. Asians can afford to buy more. This is a good thing. Now, we have to get Africa and Asian agriculture industrialized to the point that the yields can more than support life.
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or I'll keep it simple - how about the one in Haiti? having to do with subsidized agriculture having devastated Haiti's production?
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Haiti is an interesting case. It shows us clearly that all famines are man-made. Haiti shares an island with another country. Is DR having a food crises? Why not?
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| the world is safer?? where on earth do you live that you feel safe?!! |
Statistically, everywhere, as the report said, less Iraq. Do you read? Can you read? Read.
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the ME is a total mess right now - and threats towards Iran increase every day; even Jimmy Carter can't hold back any more and is speaking out about Israel
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And? When has it not been? The report showed that deaths from terrorism decreased. Carter has always been critical of Israel. He is also perhaps the most naive man to ever sit in the White House (including Bush).
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| - the U.S. just flew over Venezuela a few days ago antagonizing them even more |
It was a small plane. No harm done. The pilot apologized and the world moved on. Why can't your little mind do the same?
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- Somalia is burning and is lighting the tinderbox next to Kenya |
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Do you know your recent African history? Do you know what the word "history" means? When we say something is safer "now" we are comparing it to "not now", which due to our limits of perception means "back then". What do you know about "back then" in Africa? Have you gone and counted all the conflicts/wars per year for the last 80 years? The people who made the report have, and their findings are very positive. Not perfect, but positive.
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the U.S. has millions of illegal immigrants and doesn't know how to even begin to address the problem of where they all are and what to do about them - |
This has what to do with what?
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as for a drop in global terrorism - what the F*CK do you call invading Iraq?? that's one of the WORST cases of terrorism ever!! |
I call it an unprovoked war. If you want to define terrorism to include war, then go ahead. There is much, much less war and terrorism today than in recent history as well. Do you know about history?
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Bush and cronies are war criminals and responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians - that's men, women and children - not to mention the downfall of the Republic -
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The Republic has fallen?
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| but yes, you are right about one thing - the wealthy do get wealthier |
Actually, what we have seen is wealth creation and the expansion of the middle class at a scale and pace unseen before in human history. |
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doc_ido

Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Klein Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Polemics |
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| Friedman's own words reveal him to be an advocate of peace, democracy, and individual rights. |
Probably tells you everything you need to know about Johan. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| wow - I don't even know where to begin to address such nonsense and propaganda - |
Your inability to do so is made very clear by the rest of your post.
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| the world is safer?? where on earth do you live that you feel safe?!! |
Hysterics are no substitute for evidence showing that there are more global conflicts today than 30 years ago.
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| even Jimmy Carter can't hold back any more and is speaking out about Israel |
'Even Jimmy Carter?' Does this man have a reputation for being reluctant to give his opinion? I don't think so.
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| as for a drop in global terrorism - what the F*CK do you call invading Iraq?? that's one of the WORST cases of terrorism ever!! |
GAH! IRAQ!!
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Halliburton
Bechtel
Exxon
Chevron
Royal Dutch Petroleum
Blackwater et al.
the Carlyle Group |
Why is the Carlyle Group on that list? |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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it's absolutely amazing that a forum with allegedly college-educated professionals on it can have so much narrow-mindedness, rightwing conservatism, racism, misogynism and a host of other facist terror-minded Modedit doing nothing better with their time than ModEdit with other people's lives.
one can't help but wonder if someone pays you to come on here and spread your disinformation and meager attempts at discrediting those of us who actually know the truth, understand the social justice movements going forward and making progress in the world.
oh yes, you will grasp, strangle and thrash about with your dying breath as any drowning person would do, as you attempt to pull down the last semblance of libertarian thought, of progressive ideas, even as you go down, drowning in your own self-righteous alternate reality of white-wing-rightwing christian extremism.
rest assured, I will not be sucked into your game. it doesn't work that way.
you are not interested in debate but only spreading your own propagandized ModEdit.
in other words: go ModEdit yourself. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hell, well I'm convinced. The world IS getting more dangerous, despite the evidence. I'm now clear of the "narrow-mindedness, rightwing conservatism, racism, misogynist and a host of other fascist terror-minded f*ckheads" (spelling corrected).
Where do I write in Chomsky on ballots? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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one can't help but wonder if someone pays you to come on here and spread your disinformation and meager attempts at discrediting those of us who actually know the truth, understand the social justice movements going forward and making progress in the world.
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How did I miss that? Also, whom do I contact to get paid for my ramblings on Dave's ESL Cafe? I never knew I was the architect of a strategic agenda..
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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the world is safer?? where on earth do you live that you feel safe?!!
the ME is a total mess right now - and threats towards Iran increase every day; even Jimmy Carter can't hold back any more and is speaking out about Israel - the U.S. just flew over Venezuela a few days ago antagonizing them even more - Somalia is burning and is lighting the tinderbox next to Kenya - the U.S. has millions of illegal immigrants and doesn't know how to even begin to address the problem of where they all are and what to do about them -
as for a drop in global terrorism - what the F*CK do you call invading Iraq?? that's one of the WORST cases of terrorism ever!! |
Here's Fareed Zakaria explaining how terrorism has dropped, precipitously so.
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| The Simon Fraser study notes that the decline in terrorism appears to be caused by many factors, among them successful counterterrorism operations in dozens of countries and infighting among terror groups. But the most significant, in the study's view, is the "extraordinary drop in support for Islamist terror organizations in the Muslim world over the past five years." These are largely self-inflicted wounds. The more people are exposed to the jihadists' tactics and world view, the less they support them. An ABC/BBC poll in Afghanistan in 2007 showed support for the jihadist militants in the country to be 1 percent. In Pakistan's North-West Frontier province, where Al Qaeda has bases, support for Osama bin Laden plummeted from 70 percent in August 2007 to 4 percent in January 2008. That dramatic drop was probably a reaction to the assassination of Bena-zir Bhutto, but it points to a general trend in Pakistan over the past five years. With every new terrorist attack, public support for jihad falls. "This pattern is repeated in country after country in the Muslim world," writes Mack. "Its strategic implications are critically important because historical evidence suggests that terrorist campaigns that lose public support will sooner or later be abando | | | |