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mises
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Another religious right winger complains about the heffiyeh being worn:
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The "keffiyeh kerfuffle" - which forced Dunkin' Donuts to dump an ad featuring a celebrity chef wearing a scarf similar to a traditional Arab head-dress - has hit a Bondi bottleshop, one of its staff claims.
"I thought it was a nice scarf, a cowboy scarf. I thought: 'It's black and white, no-one will say anything to me because that's all we can wear [with our work uniform]'.
"A Palestinian customer came up and asked me if I'm wearing this scarf as a fashion statement or for political reasons.
"I had no idea what he was talking about because I don't follow politics at all. I just laughed it off.
"Two days later he called and complained about it."
Shevonne Hunt, a freelance journalist who has reported on the keffiyeh's popularity in Australia, said many Palestinians were annoyed the widespread use of the keffiyeh for fashion had watered down its meaning.
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/30/1211654279497.html
Gotta appease the religious right. Better take it off. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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I have a great idea. If anything even remotely related to Islam is automatically suspect I think we should get the Islamists, or people dressed in their garb, to interact with things we want to eliminate.
Obesity is a problem, so lets show fattie terrorists and make the argument that all fat people are terrorists, so you must slim down to be a freedom lover.
Racism is a problem, so lets show Islamists being racist, then everyone will have to stop being racist or get labelled a terrorist.
The dependency on foreign oil is a problem, so lets make sure the Islamists control OPEC and the oil, then we'll stop using it or get labelled terrorists.
If worked for those anti-drug adds didn't it? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm a little bit concerned that hummus is going to get scorned. I love that stuff but I don't really want to pick up some garbanzo beans in the grocery store and get beaten to death by a pack of outraged patriotic blue-haired conservative women. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Does Malkin fill her car with Middle Eastern oil? These people are really too much. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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The worst part about all of this is how Malkin paints the many Palestinian Christians and atheists as jihad-supporters, as many of them wear the traditional scarf. Palestinian Christians and secularists have been persecuted and gradually driven out of their homeland for decades by Muslims and Jews. The last thing they need is for some cunt like Michelle Malkin to label them jihad-supporters for wearing a garment worn by their people since before Islam even existed.
But it's not surprising, coming from Michelle Malkin, the same person who describes Chinese-Americans as "smellier than stinky tofu." |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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More than just a chic checkered scarf
TheStar.com - living - More than just a chic checkered scarf
CARLOS LATUFF CARTOON
Che Guevara drawn in a 'kaffiyeh.' May 30, 2008
Mafaz Al-Suwaidan
Special to the star
The scarf once seen covering the faces of stone-throwing boys, wrapping the bodies of bullet-pierced babies and shading the creased napes of olive farmers now makes an appearance on the mannequins of Toronto and the outfits of the rich and fabulous of New York.
And an item of clothing resembling that scarf, called a kaffiyeh, forced Dunkin' Donuts to pull an ad this week featuring celebrity chef Rachael Ray. Ray wore a black and white scarf in the ad, promoting Dunkin' Donuts' iced coffee. Critics said the scarf offered symbolic support for Muslim extremism, The Associated Press reports.
The controversial kaffiyeh, also known as the hatta or the shemagh, is a cloth about 54 inches squared. Commonly seen on the heads of men in the Middle East, the kaffiyeh was historically used simply as protection from the scorching sun. Now, the checked scarves carry a much deeper meaning.
"The kaffiyeh is a visual extension of our struggle, a way to be a thorn in the silence," says Ahmad Habib, Iraqi refugee and a member of the Arab Cultural Resistance music group. "Everywhere, from the Arab world to Toronto, people dress up to paint the world with conformity and indifference. The kaffiyeh stands in the way of that."
The transition of the kaffiyeh from the Middle Eastern version of a baseball cap to a symbol of solidarity came with the occupation of Palestinian land. The kaffiyeh became a symbol of national identity for Palestinians. From the '60s on, Palestine Liberation Organization officials and members, such Yasser Arafat, wore the kaffiyeh everywhere they went.
International coverage of the first intifada often showed pictures of Palestinian civilians throwing stones with kaffiyehs around their faces or necks. But afterward, the kaffiyeh was popular only amongst activists and Palestinian refugees.
During the second intifada in 2000, sympathy for Palestinians began to grow and the kaffiyeh became a way of displaying solidarity.
"Ideally, I want everyone to wear the kaffiyeh," says Habib, "but if it's just worn for the aesthetic value, without the spirit of resistance wrapped up in every thread, then they might as well not wear it at all, and if it becomes appropriated by commercial interests, then that's even worse."
In the window of a downtown Toronto branch of Le Ch�teau stands a mannequin wearing the latest spring fashions and a kaffiyeh around its neck. The store has been selling them for about two months. According to one salesperson, "They are selling really well. We'll probably sell them all within two weeks." Asked whether he knew what the kaffiyeh stands for, he said, "No idea." Other major retailers that sell the kaffiyeh include Urban Outfitters and H&M.
"It bothers me a lot to see the kaffiyeh go mainstream because now when you see someone wearing it, you don't know if they're wearing it for that reason, or just because it's a fashion," says University of Toronto student Jameela Jaber, a Palestinian.
"When I watch the news and see a dead Palestinian being carried to his grave, you see him wrapped with a Palestinian flag and kaffiyeh. You see everyone else wearing it. My grandfather wore it all the time."
The kaffiyeh has emerged as a symbol of resistance against oppression worldwide. "At a time when Iraq is occupied in the most violent way, the kaffiyeh, or shemagh as it is known in Iraq, carries the pride and dignity of my people and the sweet smell of Iraqi soil," says Habib. "I wear Baghdad around my neck, just like I carry it in my heart."
The transition of the kaffiyeh from a symbol of resistance to a fashion fad is not the first of its kind. Witness Che Guevara shirts once worn as a symbol of revolution. Today such shirts are sold for $15 to people who don't know who the Cuban revolutionary was. "I've had someone ask me: `Is that the lead singer from Rage Against the Machine?'" says Joe Taylor, at Toronto's Come Get Customized store.
In 2002, Brazilian political cartoonist Carlos Latuff introduced a drawing of Che Guevara with a kaffiyeh wrapped around his head. This image was popular amongst pro-Palestinian activists, but did not go mainstream. Why? Probably because it clearly calls for revolution in Palestine, and a call like that is one that neither H&M nor Urban Outfitters et al would like to include in their spring collection.
The irony is, they already have.
Mafaz Al-Suwaidan, 20, is a Kuwaiti citizen studying journalism at Ryerson University. Accustomed to seeing the scarf used as a political symbol, she was taken by its use as a fashion statement in Toronto and decided to investigate. This article is the product of her curiosity |
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http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/433754 |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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The worst part about all of this is how Malkin paints the many Palestinian Christians and atheists as jihad-supporters, as many of them wear the traditional scarf. Palestinian Christians and secularists have been persecuted and gradually driven out of their homeland for decades by Muslims and Jews. The last thing they need is for some cunt like Michelle Malkin to label them jihad-supporters for wearing a garment worn by their people since before Islam even existed.
But it's not surprising, coming from Michelle Malkin, the same person who describes Chinese-Americans as "smellier than stinky tofu." |
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Wed, Oct 24, 2007 2:08pm ET
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Malkin touts exposure of Clinton Asian-American donors who she says were "smellier than stinky tofu"
In an October 24 column -- posted on National Review Online (NRO) and Townhall.com -- noting recent coverage by the Los Angeles Times and the New York Post of certain contributions to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-NY) presidential campaign by Asian-Americans, right-wing pundit and nationally syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin referred to "Hillary campaign contributors" who were "smellier than stinky tofu."
From her column:
Both papers uncovered dishwashers, cooks and other suspect Hillary campaign contributors in New York's Chinatown, Flushing, the Bronx, and Brooklyn who were limited-income, limited-English-proficient and smellier than stinky tofu. One Asian donor admitted to the Los Angeles Times "to lacking the legal-resident status required for giving campaign money." Another, Hsiao Wen Yang, told the New York Post she was reimbursed for her $1,000 donation - setting off clear alarm bells over yet another possible straw donor scheme on the heels of Norman Hsu-gate.
The headline of Malkin's column on NRO read: "A Time to Discriminate: 'Profile' foreign donors? Of course!" |
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710240004 |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
The worst part about all of this is how Malkin paints the many Palestinian Christians and atheists as jihad-supporters, as many of them wear the traditional scarf. Palestinian Christians and secularists have been persecuted and gradually driven out of their homeland for decades by Muslims and Jews. The last thing they need is for some cunt like Michelle Malkin to label them jihad-supporters for wearing a garment worn by their people since before Islam even existed.
But it's not surprising, coming from Michelle Malkin, the same person who describes Chinese-Americans as "smellier than stinky tofu." |
Well, these people don't mind engaging in lies to attack people. Some on the extreme right will go to extremes. Someone burned the house down of Victor Ostorovsky in Canada when he had a change of heart about things he did in the past. Then, you had this malicious campaign against Edward Said who isn't a Muslim, was born a Christian and was essentially agnostic, and start spreading a campaign of lies against him, because he was very educated. Then, there were people trying to make it seem as if Chomsky was denying the holocaust, and people attempted the same thing with Norman Finkelstein, though his own parents survived the holocaust. These people go on witch hunts against anything connected to sympathy toward Arabs and will destroy their opponents on the Left.
Yasser Arafat wore a Keffiyah on his head, because it is part of his culture.
Many farmers in Jordan wear them. Yes, some youths in Palestine wore them when they were fighting Israel, and it was used to mask their identity from the Israelis. Anyway, all this talk of terrorism is kind of stupid considering the Palestinians have been occupied for over 35 years, ethnic cleansed, deported, had 365 villages or so wiped out in 1948, and have suffered enormously from it. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyway, all this talk of terrorism is kind of stupid considering the Palestinians have been occupied for over 35 years, |
over 40 years. The occupation began in 1967. |
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RJjr
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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In Michelle Malkin's world, these folks
have been supported by
Nicole Richie & Lindsay Lohan
Jimi Hendrix
and Axl Rose
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kimchikowboy
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Martha Stewart sells white sheets. Does that mean she supports the Klan? |
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numazawa
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| I support myself. Does that count? |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| I support myself. Does that count? |
Actually, I think Malkin and people like them know that Palestinian and Jordanian farmers wear keffiyehs and that people in France and Canada wear them. Anyway, Ray wasn't wearing a keffiyeh. The colors were wrong. This is about creating anti-Arab hysteria by the Daniel Pipes camp like they did with the Arab school that was supposed to open in New York and never did because of the hate campaign sparked by people like Pipes. They feel threatened by any acceptance of Arabs or any positive images, and Pipes prefers that the IDF vanquish the Palestinians i.e. use enough force to make the Palestinians surrender and submit. That was tried by Sharon, Eitan, Netanyahu, Rabin and others. It simply doesn't work.
I wonder what they will do with their lives once Israel signs a peace agreement with Syria and Lebanon? What will they write about when the Israelis and Palestinians finally sign an agreement. Anyway, this whole talk about Palestinian terrorism and ignoring the occupation
is dishonest. Both sides have engaged in terrorism. Even Shamir said, "We will fight terror with terror". Sharon said, "We will bomb them to the negotiating table!". And the IDF didn't exactly spread good will in Lebanon. Yes, Hamas engages in terrorism and so does Hezbollah, and Israel has engaged in war crimes in Lebanon and Palestine. Why is one okay and the other one is not? I take both are human beings with the same DNA. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| This is about creating anti-Arab hysteria |
In a way, you have to feel sorry for the right wing bigots. First they lost the right to oppress the blacks, then the Commies up and quit the Cold War. All they have left are Moslems. They'd go after trailer trash, but their moms would disown them. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| I support myself. Does that count? |
Actually, I think Malkin and people like them know that Palestinian and Jordanian farmers wear keffiyehs and that people in France and Canada wear them. Anyway, Ray wasn't wearing a keffiyeh. The colors were wrong. This is about creating anti-Arab hysteria by the Daniel Pipes camp like they did with the Arab school that was supposed to open in New York and never did because of the hate campaign sparked by people like Pipes. They feel threatened by any acceptance of Arabs or any positive images, and Pipes prefers that the IDF vanquish the Palestinians i.e. use enough force to make the Palestinians surrender and submit. That was tried by Sharon, Eitan, Netanyahu, Rabin and others. It simply doesn't work.
I wonder what they will do with their lives once Israel signs a peace agreement with Syria and Lebanon? What will they write about when the Israelis and Palestinians finally sign an agreement. Anyway, this whole talk about Palestinian terrorism and ignoring the occupation
is dishonest. Both sides have engaged in terrorism. Even Shamir said, "We will fight terror with terror". Sharon said, "We will bomb them to the negotiating table!". And the IDF didn't exactly spread good will in Lebanon. Yes, Hamas engages in terrorism and so does Hezbollah, and Israel has engaged in war crimes in Lebanon and Palestine. Why is one okay and the other one is not? I take both are human beings with the same DNA. |
Well you can ask what each side fights for .
and in the case of Lebanon if Hizzbollah is an organziation which is not out to destory Israel then Israel might have done too much. However if Hizzbollah is an organization
and while Hamas and Hizzbollah hit Israel with everything they have Israel has not done so.
and for balance in 1948 Israel enemies launched war to expel or slaughter all the Jews in the area. Including the arab jews. and one of the leaders of that war against Israel was the mufit of Jerusalem a convicted nazi war criminal and a particpant in the holocaust.
That is a war crime. No question about it.
Arab nations in revenge for Israel persecuted their Jewish populations.
That is true as well.
Besides there would be no occupation if Yasser Arafat had accepted Bill Clintons' offer I am not talking about Camp David in the summer of 2000 I am talking about the offer in December of 2000.
Arafat didn't accept it. |
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