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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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One poster recommended Daves Clark Five's "Because". Was it it you Leslie? Well, I did watch it. Are you joking?? My apologies if you're not. |
Apology accepted. Not joking at all. Wasn't entirely aware of your skill level. Alas, I am at the sucky level, and will probably remain there forever. So, it's DC5 to the rescue!  |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I suppose it's just my horror of the drummer being chief vocalist creeping in. Am a fan of the Searchers/Kinks et al but I have to be spared the fate of seeing a drummer doing the vocals.
Even put me off Hotel California. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I suppose it's just my horror of the drummer being chief vocalist creeping in. Am a fan of the Searchers/Kinks et al but I have to spared the fate of seeing a drummer doing the vocals.
Even put me off Hotel California. |
Dave was "just" the leader of the band; Mike Smith did most of the lead singing.
But I feel as you do. Something about the drummer doing the singing just doesn't ah, arrgh, yeah. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Actually, that strikes at the root of what I'm trying to get at. If we are of moderate talent, yet have some pretensions, then we should avoid songs that are too easy, such as Heart of Gold. That would simply amplify the fact that we are no Neil Youngs, to ourselves and the world..
However, there are many Young songs such as "A man needs a maid" with a good array of snappy chords that would make for happier renditions and allow our own little sparks to blossom. We can rework such songs in many ways and add our own charms. Plus the immediacy and novelty of the song being done "live" is always an extra to boost the final product..
But if we simply belt out "love is all around me" by the Troggs, it's a recipe for friends picking up the conversation instead of being glued to the music maker.
One poster recommended Daves Clark Five's "Because". Was it it you Leslie? Well, I did watch it. Are you joking?? My apologies if you're not. |
Nah, the quickest way to make everyone to pick up the conversation instead of staying glued to the music maker is to play something that nobody knows. The best way to keep people's attention is to play songs everybody knows, like "love is all around" by the Troggs.
That said, I don't think the goal of every musician should be the complete and rapt attention of their audience. Audiences are fickle things and should be taken with a grain of salt. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, that strikes at the root of what I'm trying to get at. If we are of moderate talent, yet have some pretensions, then we should avoid songs that are too easy, such as Heart of Gold. That would simply amplify the fact that we are no Neil Youngs, to ourselves and the world..
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The bolded part is the problem (for me anyway), right there... I pick up my guitar 5 or 6 times a year...  |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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For me it's quite a high to have an audience that unreservedly appreciates me and I'll pare them down to just one, if necessary. Or I'll put everything in the shop window and play my best stuff first. Especially, if there's that non-musical type that likes to gabber and repeatedly request the inane stuff.
And of course as Underwaterbob says to do only known stuff. But modern music has been around for a long time now. There is a vast repetoire to choose from such that we're spoiled for choice. Music lovers do know them.
Those that don't, there won't be a next time. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I know, I should really learn to do TABs. Once, I was jamming with a less than average player and he suddenly set off on Pinball Wizard, which sounded pretty good. Good enough, that I was hardpressed to see what in f he was doing. Found out his secret. Tabs!!
I use open G tuning for Judy Blue Eyes and sounds great, but thanks for the tip. Honky Tonk woman sounds like a simple 3 chorder blues but haven't tried it yet. I'm not too keen on "let's all make a big noise together and sing baldly to the rooftops." And I'm yet to make any Stones rock song work. But the more suggestions the merrier, thanks.
I'm keen on songs with a few little trick chords that exemplify the acoustic. I'm quite a good vamper with good timing but picky parts I struggle with. Those pick parts that I do pick up I'm always very proud of and never forget (nor allow anyone else). |
Keith Richards uses open tunings more often than not. |
Yeah, and many of them are f-cking great songs too like 'Brown Sugar' and 'Street Fighting Man'; easy to fake. 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking' is a good one to practice (not easy though). |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Think I've just hit paydirt. High Tide or Low Tide duo by Ben Harper and Jack Johnson. Carson Show.
Download limewire or other. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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I'd love to be able to do an acceptable version of Street Fighting Man, especially the refrain when rythym meets lead. It's so into the mystique of the Stones.
The "Get ya yas yas out " album has the version that I can't get enough of. If I meet the person who can deliver that song on one guitar I'll wring his hand in warm congratulations. |
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Zutronius
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon
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Come as You Are By Nirvana
NIRVANA - Come As You Are
Nevermind version: A whole step down
Unplugged version: 1/2 step down
Main riff:
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|-----|-----0---0---------2-----2---|
|-0-0-|-1-2---2---2-2-1-0---0-0---0-|
"Memoria..."
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|--4--2--|
|--4--0--|
|--2-----|
"And I swear that I don't have a gun..."
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|--4--7--|
|--4--7--|
|--2--5--|
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Solo:
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|--6--9-11\6--6--9-11\6--6--9-11-11/13-13\11-11-9-|
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