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Pay or not to pay that is the question
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To Pay or not to pay
Yes
70%
 70%  [ 12 ]
No
29%
 29%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 17

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maxxx_power



Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Location: BWAHAHAHAHA! I'M FREE!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
Chipping in for a funeral is so nice. I wish we had that in the States. When my father dies, I'll probably have to dig deep for his funeral. The social network that shares the (financial) pain is great.

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Damn, when I die I want my family to toss me in a dumpster or just bury me in a shallow grave. *beep* that cost, I'm dead, it's not like i'd notice.

I would do no less for my own mother.

If someone profits from my death for reasons other than inheritence, I will come back and haunt them for eternity. Why should someone give up THEIR cash just because some old dude died? Really, it's not like he died unexpectedly.

It's ridiculous, pay of course unless you hate your boss, but deep inside just know that what you are doing is wrong.
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Starperson



Joined: 23 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was someone on here the other day who had to go home because of a family member passing away, and the staff at his school chipped in for his air-flight.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay it and don't whine, or the Austinator will hunt you down. Shocked
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Thomas



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, I would pay the money... as I have done many times for various situations such as funerals and weddings. I usually ask the wife or other Korean for the appropriate amount and pay away. My justifications:

(1) Selfish level - promotes harmony among workers, seniors, juniors, etc. and removes causes for them not to like me. It's better toi pay w50,000 and have people like you than it is to fight it and make bad feelings towards you!

(2) Good reason - in Korea, the people who have the fortune/misfortune of the wedding/funeral usually have to throw a big dinner party for everyone and pay for this. The money you give them helps offset this cost.

(3) Roman Reason - I tried to fit in with the cultural expectations as much as possible to decrease stress and potential for bad feelings towards me, who just wanted to live and work in happiness and peace!
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sliver wrote:


Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote

Quote:
But don't apologize for it being late


I find it interesting he would follow this custom to the point of giving money but not to the point of what a Korean would consider good manners.


Well, if you had mistakenly forgotten to pay, I would have advised that you apologize, but you mentioned that your co-worker told you about it late. Since it's not your fault the money is being given late, why should you apologize?

Sparkles*_*
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm I don't think I would pay it. I voted NO.

My reason is if someone has to come and tell you to give money, then the whole point of GIVING is gone out the window.

Also about weddings, this is how I operate. If I know the person and make the effort to attend their wedding, I start at 50,000 and for friends hit like 100-200,000 won. IF I am not attending a wedding I don't contribute to any "fund" etc. Why should I pay for someone's wedding that I don't know?

About creating harmony with co-workers. Well if you know them, then you do appropriate things. If you don't know them, nothing lost IMO.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Pay or not to pay that is the question Reply with quote

Pay the guy. It is mean of him to take it, but that's for his conscience to deal with, yours will be clear.
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i hated the coersion to pay because its someone's birthday, wedding, funeral, etc etc.

and its not like you can give the amount you think is appropriate. its like, fork over 30,000 before we beat it out of ya.

But then in the US, they guilt you into giving. its like, "some daughter of so and so has some weird illness you never heard of before and she needs $100,000 for the operation. So what do you think you should do?"
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