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How accurate is this description of the Democrats?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the right message the US ought to be sending to Iran?

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=J6UZaGan0CI
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Obama's wife

Her crime was saying that it the first time in a long time she has felt proud of her country. Most people have no trouble interpreting her "long time" to mean since before Geo Bush came to power. There has been precious little to be proud about since then.

Am I a little off-base in thinking maybe Fred Thompson has already started campaigning for 2012?

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I never heard one of my professors "dwell on America's imperfections" but they do try to tell a true history and in doing so they are labeled "lefties".

This happens to a lot of us who are not professors, also.

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What about Michael Moore and his supporters? What kind of America do they tend to talk about?

A lot of us like to talk about the kind of America we can be when we are at our best.


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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Kuros wrote:
The rest is horse-crap.


Does that response apply to this portrayal as well?

"...highlighting and dwelling on America's imperfections."

Michelle Obama wrote:
For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country.


Why exactly?

Also see Rev. J. Wright's views on America.

These are but two people very close to the man the Democratic Party has all but nominated for president.

What about Moveon.org and its attacks on Petraeus and esp. those credible claims I saw during his testimony that Democratic Senators and Congressmen had promoted the attack-ad? All American officials not under their control lie and betray us?

What about Michael Moore and his supporters? What kind of America do they tend to talk about?

What about legions of leftist professors in academe who highlight and dwell on America's imperfections in publications and at the lecture podium? They typically denounce the entire society as unalterably capitalistic (as if this represented a crime against humanity), racist, patriarchal, and not only homophobic, but committed to oppressing homosexuals forever.

Can you produce a pattern of Democrats who find something nice to say about America? or who at least recognize changes have occurred in American society, since, say, Jim Crow?


None of these people hold political office.
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SirFink



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: How accurate is this description of the Democrats? Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:

In stopping or reneging on free trade agreements with other countries, and making the word of the United States less reliable.

In continuing to expand our entitlement program spending even as these programs are headed bankruptcy.


They would bring about the biggest tax increase in American history.


The above are correct. The rest is horse-crap.


NAFTA was signed under Clinton, wasn't it? And Hilary went around the country promoting it on her husband's behalf.

Show me one Republican who has talked about getting rid of Medicare and Social Security -- the two biggest entitlement programs in America, both of which will utterly destroy the country if we don't make major changes to them. Welfare? Sure! It's easy to convince the majority of Americans that we should cut government hand-outs to poor, black, single-mothers, but that's a tiny fraction of entitlement programs. With the exception of maybe Ron Paul, nobody in Washington has the guts to suggest cutting grandma off of her meds and SS check.

"Schools run by the NEA" ? Okay, but Thompson has no apparent problem with a foreign policy run by AIPAC, entitlement programs run by the AARP, and a trade policy run by multi-national corporations.
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Khenan



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: How accurate is this description of the Democrats? Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
In isolationism.


Wasn't this the goal of the Old republicans?

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

In turning over the education of our children to the NEA.


Um.... NCLB, anyone?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: How accurate is this description of the Democrats? Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
In your estimation, how accurate is Fred Thompson's description of the Democratic Party?

Fred Thompson is a joke. I actually made an effort to listen to many of his messages on youtube back when he was running for the Republican nomination.

He's basically a slower more daft version of George Bush.

I listened to one of his speech go on for 20 minutes about how no one knows if global warming is fact or not. You can't trust anyone on it, and the first thing he would do if elected President would create some large government beaucracy of experts to see just if it there was any truth to it or not. Then he blabbered on to his audience of about five people about liberal spenders and how he was gonna beef up the war and fight illegals and a bunch of other expensive tax-money spending projects.
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