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Can our home governments locate us through our passports?
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
I know some Ks who actually live and work w/o id cards because they're against them.

it's my understanding most (all now perhaps?) money is embedded w/tags so when you walk thru a detector at the airport they know if you are carrying cash and how much.

what's really scary (to me anyway) I read an article about dogs who sniff out pirated dvds - Shocked Shocked Shocked

*edit* that is, they are trained to sniff out the plastic from dvds and I suppose an alert signals it's likely to be pirated ones

I don't know if that's just for major dealers but I am a bit concerned about my next trip home because I have a large dvd wallet w/maybe 100 in it.



So these dogs can tell the difference between a blank DVD that you bought at Best Buy and put your family photos on, and a blank DVD you bought at Best Buy that you put pirated MP3's on?

Wow, their olfactory glands are extremely advanced. I never knew they had file reading systems in their noses. Furthermore, I never knew dogs were capable of distinguishing a copyrighted mp3 from a uncopyrighted mp3 simply through the scent.

I'm going to institute a K-9 file reader on my computer to organize my files now. It's much easier than tagging them individually.


I'm glad you're sweating though. Pirating 100 DVD's, over $2000 worth of goods that should be going to people who work in the film industry (who aren't all millionaires by the way!) is a despicable act of theft. Theft is not only illegal, but also immoral. You hurt yourself by continually thieving from people. I suggest you give up pirating like I did.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You give these guys too much credit.

The CIA and FBI can't even be sure if suspected terrorists, known to hav eentered the country, are still in the USA.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada can-an acquaintance of mine, a bit of a dumbass, tried to collect Employment Insurance while in Korea teaching-not the best idea, but when you grow up in the New Brunswich culture of defeatism, whatcha gonna do?
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're an American, DHS and the NSA always have dips on where you are in the world unless, as another poster mentioned, you leave the place and go somewhere without using your passport.......god forbid you go to a place like Pakistan, even with a passport and visa......


...........one of my classmates went there for some internship and upon arriving back in the US, she was grilled for 2 straight hours at JFK about where she was and who she met over there........it was very stressful for her..........

.........Even me---When I went through passport control, I was asked about my visas for Saudi Arabia (never used) and Kuwait and what I was doing there.....I provided him a copy of my contract for my former job in Kuwait (first time I ever had to show further proof of my trip.....) and he waved me through..........
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PeteJB



Joined: 06 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't know where we are, they don't give a flying frack. They only ever access that information when they really want your ass. Even the tax and social security (and government arms, public sectors, etc etc..) people don't know a thing about where you are, unless you tell them specifically.
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RyanInKorea



Joined: 17 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not read too many of the other posts, so apologies if I repeat anything.

When I came to Korea I was reminded by some relatives to 'register' at the Canadian Embassy when I arrived. Doing a quick search I found a spot saying if I wanted to be on a 'list' I could register where I was staying in Korea and for how long, lest anything happened here. This leads me to believe that, yes, when you enter into another country the government knows. They do not know why, where or for how long. Who knows how long it takes to update. If I travel to Japan for vacation does some computer back home show. CANADA--->KOREA (six months) ----> Japan (five days) ----> KOREA (four months) ----> Australia ( two weeks) ----> Korea, etc.

Who knows what's written there, but it has to be very minimal.

Meh,
Ryan

Edit: Two t's in written.
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True our embassies ask us to register, which suggests that they do not automatically know where we are. But if a branch of government (say ('collections') was interested in pursuing a particular individual, is it not possible that they would have access to your whereabouts by checking your passport activity.
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Lekker



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Register with your embassy for the hell of it.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passports don't really have your location on them. If someone looks at your passport, they can see that you went to "India," but where in that mess of over a billion people you actually were, they have no idea.

Plus, you're the only one who has your passport unless it gets stolen anyway. The government of Canada has no idea I got my visa stamped in Myanmar because they don't have my passport, I do. And they certainly don't have any integrated electronic tracking system with that dirt hole country.
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The Great Toad



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanInKorea wrote:
I did not read too many of the other posts, so apologies if I repeat anything.

When I came to Korea I was reminded by some relatives to 'register' at the Canadian Embassy when I arrived. Doing a quick search I found a spot saying if I wanted to be on a 'list' I could register where I was staying in Korea and for how long, lest anything happened here. This leads me to believe that, yes, when you enter into another country the government knows. They do not know why, where or for how long. Who knows how long it takes to update. If I travel to Japan for vacation does some computer back home show. CANADA--->KOREA (six months) ----> Japan (five days) ----> KOREA (four months) ----> Australia ( two weeks) ----> Korea, etc.

Who knows what's written there, but it has to be very minimal.



Meh,
Ryan

Edit: Two t's in written.



My embassy found me and sent a letter to my office with an invite to Seoul(didn't go).

My Green Card has 80% copper on the reverse side so I'm guessing there's lots of info there.

When i returned to New Zealand from Korea one year, the immi person looked at the screen and sneered. Who knows what they know.
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WoBW



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:



My embassy found me and sent a letter to my office with an invite to Seoul(didn't go).

My Green Card has 80% copper on the reverse side so I'm guessing there's lots of info there.

When i returned to New Zealand from Korea one year, the immi person looked at the screen and sneered. Who knows what they know.


Alright, 'fess up. What did you do that made the person sneer?
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Gollywog



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it is a little known fact that the RFID chip in your passport can be tracked by GPS satellites. So, yes, they can tell where you are, to within one meter.

Provided you are carrying your passport.







(one of these days, I've got to figure out how to use the emoticons.)
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'll be a great help when I need emergency helicopter rescue launched from the nearest aircraft carrier when I'm accosted by, I dunno, puking kindergarten students.

Gollywog, don't stoop to using emoticons. You're better than that.
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ReeseDog



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gollywog wrote:
Actually, it is a little known fact that the RFID chip in your passport can be tracked by GPS satellites. So, yes, they can tell where you are, to within one meter.

Provided you are carrying your passport.


You're kidding, right? If not, I'm going to have to throw a bullshit flag on that one.
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