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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
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| Or, take them to see the dog being prepared for slaughter. Watch them yelping in agony and terror, while they are tortued. |
I worked in a battery chicken farm shortly before coming to Korea. If you object to such things then you might like to give up eating eggs and chicken as well. |
I did. Years ago. I will only buy eggs if they are from free range chickens, and they have been certified by a respected animal welfare association. That means paying 3 or 4 times the price of cage eggs, and I do it gladly. As for chickens I prefer live over dead. There are plenty of plantbased substances that taste just as good. |
Fresh chickens there's lots of Korean men who will fork out a lot of cash for that.
I really don't see the point in living somewhere like Korea when you have such a limited diet. Even if you choose what's available without choosing to limit yourself it's unsatisfactory at best. I'm not willing to eat any old slop regardless of how healthy it is. |
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kalmaegi
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
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FVCK PETA. It's not a step in the right direction. It's left wing moralistic fools trying to tell the rest of the world how to live.
PETA are a bunch of fools who think it's cool to ruin other peoples clothes.
How many of these bull dykes who throw paint on a womans coat wear leather jackets leather shoes. No one wears more black leather than Pamela Anderson |
Wow. Bad day?
Yes, Westerners should respect that people in Asia eat different animals than we do. Hindu's don't throw fits cause we eat cows. |
We should also respect China's rights in Liaoning Province. Left wing moralistic fools be damned!
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/china.html
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2007/04/02/cannibalism-in-china-acceptable-if-for-health
Also, from documented sources on the 'pedia: Cannibalism is proved to have occurred in China during the Great Leap Forward, when rural China was hit hard by drought and famine. Reports of cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution in China have also emerged. These reports show that cannibalism was practiced for ideological purposes. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
No, then again what kind of intelligent discourse can you get from some dorky geek on Dave's ELS. Then again what do you care? I'm always suspect of those wanting to save the world. They usually tend to be burnt out old hippy farts. I don't hang out with pretencious losers who actually think that the world really gives a hoot about what they have to say.
As far as protestings concerned I think it's pretty useless and you only meet wingnuts at these kind of things. It's actually shocking the level of stupidity you have to endure at Daves ESL. Like why should I give a toss about some Geek going on the Tofu only diet. I find it rather arrogant that these people come to Korea. Where the menu is already limited. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| kalmaegi wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
FVCK PETA. It's not a step in the right direction. It's left wing moralistic fools trying to tell the rest of the world how to live.
PETA are a bunch of fools who think it's cool to ruin other peoples clothes.
How many of these bull dykes who throw paint on a womans coat wear leather jackets leather shoes. No one wears more black leather than Pamela Anderson |
Wow. Bad day?
Yes, Westerners should respect that people in Asia eat different animals than we do. Hindu's don't throw fits cause we eat cows. |
We should also respect China's rights in Liaoning Province. Left wing moralistic fools be damned!
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/china.html
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2007/04/02/cannibalism-in-china-acceptable-if-for-health
Also, from documented sources on the 'pedia: Cannibalism is proved to have occurred in China during the Great Leap Forward, when rural China was hit hard by drought and famine. Reports of cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution in China have also emerged. These reports show that cannibalism was practiced for ideological purposes. |
Maybe you should try it. You might get some protein in your diet without relying on Soy Burgers, Soy hot dogs, herbal tea's, meditation. Yoga.
What would the feutus care it's already dead. I can't see Pamala Anderson turning it down. She's swollowed bucketloads of jizz in her time. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mises, your avatar is hilarious. I crack up every time I see it. (It's not you, right?) |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| mises, your avatar is hilarious. I crack up every time I see it. (It's not you, right?) |
The Avator displays the intelligence level of the poster. |
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kalmaegi
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
No, then again what kind of intelligent discourse can you get from some dorky geek on Dave's ELS. Then again what do you care? I'm always suspect of those wanting to save the world. They usually tend to be burnt out old hippy farts. I don't hang out with pretencious losers who actually think that the world really gives a hoot about what they have to say.
As far as protestings concerned I think it's pretty useless and you only meet wingnuts at these kind of things. It's actually shocking the level of stupidity you have to endure at Daves ESL. Like why should I give a toss about some Geek going on the Tofu only diet. I find it rather arrogant that these people come to Korea. Where the menu is already limited. |
I appreciate all of your kind comments, and am glad that you resorted to that one comment in so it saves us all the trouble. I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with all the negativity (myself included) in Korea anymore. It's also amusing that you're posting for your own self-aggrandization and assuming that people care what you have to say, putting yourself above the discourse.
Anyway, I'm curious if you are of the mindset that eating humans is immoral under all circumstances. This includes with consent, for survival, as part of a religious practice and others.
I don't give two squats about the act of eating a dog -- meat is meat. Nor do I particularly care for PETA. However, I do care about the barbaric methods that Koreans employ and the reasoning behind the beating-to-death -- "it makes the meat softer."
If that's humanity and is defined as "okay," then what makes that mindset morally different than non-consent cannibalism? Do you think dogs lack enough consenting faculties that it's acceptable to beat them to death? How about throwing them, still alive, in a washing machine with the water hoses disconnected and putting it on spin cycle? That happens in Korea too. Is this okay as well? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| kalmaegi wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
No, then again what kind of intelligent discourse can you get from some dorky geek on Dave's ELS. Then again what do you care? I'm always suspect of those wanting to save the world. They usually tend to be burnt out old hippy farts. I don't hang out with pretencious losers who actually think that the world really gives a hoot about what they have to say.
As far as protestings concerned I think it's pretty useless and you only meet wingnuts at these kind of things. It's actually shocking the level of stupidity you have to endure at Daves ESL. Like why should I give a toss about some Geek going on the Tofu only diet. I find it rather arrogant that these people come to Korea. Where the menu is already limited. |
I appreciate all of your kind comments, and am glad that you resorted to that one comment in so it saves us all the trouble. I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with all the negativity (myself included) in Korea anymore. It's also amusing that you're posting for your own self-aggrandization and assuming that people care what you have to say, putting yourself above the discourse.
Anyway, I'm curious if you are of the mindset that eating humans is immoral under all circumstances. This includes with consent, for survival, as part of a religious practice and others.
I don't give two squats about the act of eating a dog -- meat is meat. Nor do I particularly care for PETA. However, I do care about the barbaric methods that Koreans employ and the reasoning behind the beating-to-death -- "it makes the meat softer."
If that's humanity and is defined as "okay," then what makes that mindset morally different than non-consent cannibalism? Do you think dogs lack enough consenting faculties that it's acceptable to beat them to death? How about throwing them, still alive, in a washing machine with the water hoses disconnected and putting it on spin cycle? That happens in Korea too. Is this okay as well? |
Who are you to judge? These people have been oppressed by every Nation on earth. How dare you be so arrogant that you think you can control what they put in their mouths. You came here to bloody well teach English so that's what you should be doing. There's a wealth of information
on the net concerning how to implement the Communicative approach in the classroom. So why do you resort to wasting time trolling internet web sites. You should be ashamed of yourself. Now get to work. |
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kalmaegi
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| kalmaegi wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
No, then again what kind of intelligent discourse can you get from some dorky geek on Dave's ELS. Then again what do you care? I'm always suspect of those wanting to save the world. They usually tend to be burnt out old hippy farts. I don't hang out with pretencious losers who actually think that the world really gives a hoot about what they have to say.
As far as protestings concerned I think it's pretty useless and you only meet wingnuts at these kind of things. It's actually shocking the level of stupidity you have to endure at Daves ESL. Like why should I give a toss about some Geek going on the Tofu only diet. I find it rather arrogant that these people come to Korea. Where the menu is already limited. |
I appreciate all of your kind comments, and am glad that you resorted to that one comment in so it saves us all the trouble. I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with all the negativity (myself included) in Korea anymore. It's also amusing that you're posting for your own self-aggrandization and assuming that people care what you have to say, putting yourself above the discourse.
Anyway, I'm curious if you are of the mindset that eating humans is immoral under all circumstances. This includes with consent, for survival, as part of a religious practice and others.
I don't give two squats about the act of eating a dog -- meat is meat. Nor do I particularly care for PETA. However, I do care about the barbaric methods that Koreans employ and the reasoning behind the beating-to-death -- "it makes the meat softer."
If that's humanity and is defined as "okay," then what makes that mindset morally different than non-consent cannibalism? Do you think dogs lack enough consenting faculties that it's acceptable to beat them to death? How about throwing them, still alive, in a washing machine with the water hoses disconnected and putting it on spin cycle? That happens in Korea too. Is this okay as well? |
Who are you to judge? These people have been oppressed by every Nation on earth. How dare you be so arrogant that you think you can control what they put in their mouths. You came here to bloody well teach English so that's what you should be doing. There's a wealth of information
on the net concerning how to implement the Communicative approach in the classroom. So why do you resort to wasting time trolling internet web sites. You should be ashamed of yourself. Now get to work. |
Let me start by addressing your shallow and false assumptions. I don't teach in Korea, though I certainly used to; I live and work in Hong Kong, and definitely not in the ESL industry. So I'll leave the communicative approach to others. I'm just trying to add to a well-needed discussion. Who's the troll hurling insults here?
I'm not trying to control what anyone eats -- I eat meat with the best of 'em. I'm simply commenting on what I find to be a completely inhumane process of killing the dogs -- which could certainly be improved to meet ethical standards if this is a food source.
http://www.seoulsearching.com/DogMeat.html
Look at those pictures (not for the faint of heart) and tell me that's humane. I'll be glad to upload and provide links to the videos from the Chilsung Market in Daegu that were previously hosted on that site, if I can dig them up on the ol' hard drive.
Actually, found them on YouTube -- http://au.youtube.com/user/koreananimals.
Please defend the Korean honor in those pictures and videos. |
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mises
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| mises, your avatar is hilarious. I crack up every time I see it. (It's not you, right?) |
The Avator displays the intelligence level of the poster. |
What are you and I arguing about? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| kalmaegi wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| kalmaegi wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Did somebody once teach you that eating dog and eating human were morally the same? |
No, then again what kind of intelligent discourse can you get from some dorky geek on Dave's ELS. Then again what do you care? I'm always suspect of those wanting to save the world. They usually tend to be burnt out old hippy farts. I don't hang out with pretencious losers who actually think that the world really gives a hoot about what they have to say.
As far as protestings concerned I think it's pretty useless and you only meet wingnuts at these kind of things. It's actually shocking the level of stupidity you have to endure at Daves ESL. Like why should I give a toss about some Geek going on the Tofu only diet. I find it rather arrogant that these people come to Korea. Where the menu is already limited. |
I appreciate all of your kind comments, and am glad that you resorted to that one comment in so it saves us all the trouble. I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with all the negativity (myself included) in Korea anymore. It's also amusing that you're posting for your own self-aggrandization and assuming that people care what you have to say, putting yourself above the discourse.
Anyway, I'm curious if you are of the mindset that eating humans is immoral under all circumstances. This includes with consent, for survival, as part of a religious practice and others.
I don't give two squats about the act of eating a dog -- meat is meat. Nor do I particularly care for PETA. However, I do care about the barbaric methods that Koreans employ and the reasoning behind the beating-to-death -- "it makes the meat softer."
If that's humanity and is defined as "okay," then what makes that mindset morally different than non-consent cannibalism? Do you think dogs lack enough consenting faculties that it's acceptable to beat them to death? How about throwing them, still alive, in a washing machine with the water hoses disconnected and putting it on spin cycle? That happens in Korea too. Is this okay as well? |
Who are you to judge? These people have been oppressed by every Nation on earth. How dare you be so arrogant that you think you can control what they put in their mouths. You came here to bloody well teach English so that's what you should be doing. There's a wealth of information
on the net concerning how to implement the Communicative approach in the classroom. So why do you resort to wasting time trolling internet web sites. You should be ashamed of yourself. Now get to work. |
Let me start by addressing your shallow and false assumptions. I don't teach in Korea, though I certainly used to; I live and work in Hong Kong, and definitely not in the ESL industry. So I'll leave the communicative approach to others. I'm just trying to add to a well-needed discussion. Who's the troll hurling insults here?
I'm not trying to control what anyone eats -- I eat meat with the best of 'em. I'm simply commenting on what I find to be a completely inhumane process of killing the dogs -- which could certainly be improved to meet ethical standards if this is a food source.
http://www.seoulsearching.com/DogMeat.html
Look at those pictures (not for the faint of heart) and tell me that's humane. I'll be glad to upload and provide links to the videos from the Chilsung Market in Daegu that were previously hosted on that site, if I can dig them up on the ol' hard drive.
Actually, found them on YouTube -- http://au.youtube.com/user/koreananimals.
Please defend the Korean honor in those pictures and videos. |
I don't understand why you want to hurt the international reputation of Korea. No One wants to kill your pet. So why bother? I think you're an idiot. There's nothing wrong with eating dog. I eat dog at least three times a week. I've eaten it with high class officials. Afterwards they paids for a high class room salon it was great.
You seriously need to lighten up. Why are you sewing seeds of discontent. I'm sure you won't make many friends in China with your enthnocentric ranting. What? Do you really still think western culture is Superior. I bet you still refer to them as gooks. I'm glad I don't hang around racist douchbags like you. Good luck in China. They'll like you until they find out what you're really like then they won't hesitate to stab you in the back. Not getting laid much? eh |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| mises, your avatar is hilarious. I crack up every time I see it. (It's not you, right?) |
The Avator displays the intelligence level of the poster. |
And you have... none? |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
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Who are you to judge? These people have been oppressed by every Nation on earth. . |
I'm fairly sure Canada didn't have much to do with Korea's oppression. Or Bosnia or Serbia, or Mexico... or most other nations on earth.  |
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