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[Cheonmunka]

That was a funny episode.

I think if Aframericans use the term to describe themselves or others of their own skin color, then there is no significant racial intent. Negative perhaps, but not racially motivated.
But, if caucasian/Asian people use it to talk about people with brown/black skin then there is that discrimination going on.

[Gopher]

[billybrobby]

I write this post with a sense of frustration because you don't seem to be reading the content of my posts.

[Gopher]

Call it "a deep sense of whatever you want," Billy Brobby. At the end of the day, you frustratingly have endorsed different standards for different people based exclusively on their race. That makes you a racist as far as I can tell. The PC type.

The only place we can go now is to recognize something here will not be reconciled and part company -- or we can continue going in circles.

[billybrobby]

awww, but i want the last word!

[friendoken]

This thread, and so many like it that have come before, are all tired and old. People bandy the word racist around so often, in such diverse situations, that it has lost a great deal of its original intent.

It seems to me that people are referred to as racists because they express opinions certain hyper-PC types don't appreciate.

Can anybody really, truly, say they have never uttered or thought anything that could be even remotely described as quasi-racist ideology by another person? Please, we all have our moments.

And, for an elliptical argument, if you are the perfect PC person, who loves and respects everyone on earth equally except racists, does that not also make you a racist by definition? You are, after all, disparaging a specific group of people for their beliefs.

Not one of us is saintly, despite our protestations to the opposite.

[The Bobster]

I sympathize with those who think the word has too much power and that using it at all disrespects the people who have fought, sometimes died, to make the world better, but I disagree with those who say that context is not important. It's very important.

I'm out drinking with my best friend in the world, a guy I'd do anything for and he'd do the same for me. I say, casually, "Hey, throw me a cigarette, fothermucker," and he tosses me the pack and says I should eat him. Doesn't mean the same thing as words spoken in heat by people with mayhem in their hearts or malice in their intentions.

When a white person uses the 'n' word, it's a willful display of ignorance of history and the pain and oppression that has happened and still happens with words being among many tools employed to make that painful reality persist. This is not true in every case or context, though - it's possible for a white person to be such good friends with a black person that it can be used with just as much love as I used the barely-disguised 'f' word above.

As for saying they should be able to use any word anyone else uses any time they want, sure, you can do that. Free country, and this is on the level of social propriety not censorship - me, I tend to view bigoted speech as something that ought to be embarassing to the person engaging in it, something akin to farting in an elevator when you don't have a dog with you to blame it on ... sort of like, um, hey, why in the world do you want to display to the world what a complete buffoon you are, when there are plenty of other ways to go?

friendoken

[travel zen]

Watching American TV..

The only people I see using the "N" word are the young and lost, the homeless-looking people, and entertainers who want to make a name for themselves, or a fast buck...

I don't see any educated black person using the "N" word. Do you know why? Because its pretty damned stupid to use a word that denegrates yourself. But you know that already.

[bassexpander]

[khyber]

[Gopher]

[bassexpander]

Jesse Jackson? Educated?

You conveniently left that one out.

[Gopher]

[IncognitoHFX]

[Gopher]

Bill Cosby (and supporting actors and spinoffs), Will Smith (and supporting actors), the list goes on.

African-Americans have options, then. Just look at Barack and Michelle Obama, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and Clarence Thomas. And why not cite Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods, too? They appear in commercials all the time. Yet some African-Americans certainly choose to embrace the roles you outline and describe, above.

Why are they doing this? Because they have found a device that empowers them to bully whites? If so, who are the racsits in the here and now?