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mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

I like Obama, kinda. I'm not projecting my desired outcome onto my anticipated outcome. I figured he would win until a few weeks ago.

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

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Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

Well, I think we believe that having Barrak Obama would be an improvement over the status quo. At any rate, America needs someone to pay off some of the debt, deal with education, and the economy. If Obama can at least inspire some confidence in the economy then that would be good. It may require the raising of taxes and some interventionist policies, but the US economy may need that considering the mess the banks got themselves into and the housing sector is in a huge mess. Someone needs to act with urgency. I wish they would have the election next month or have a system like that exists in England and Canada where you have a vote of no-confidence instead of having to impeach to replace a president.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Hillary is a smart woman. She had one choice that would give her a political future and she bit the bullet and did it. She made a good speech (and delivered it well). She is now in the position to be regarded as a supporter of Obama if he wins and has the cred to be the alternative in 2012 if he loses. If Bill is the best politician of his generation, which he himself claims, he will reinforce Hillary's image when he gives his speech. He has the oratorical ability to wind the delegates up into a lynch mob if he is on.

Obama has been disappointing over the last month or so. He had a lead and all the signs are out there that this should be a Democratic cake walk. The lead is gone. McCain's negative ads are working.

Historically, the general public doesn't pay much attention until Labor Day (first week of September) when the official campaign begins. Obama needs to make a great speech this week and then send out Biden, the 2 Clintons and any Kennedy he can get his hands on to all go pretty negative and tear McCain down lower than the Republicans can tear him down.

Counterintuitively, Obama will have the best chance if the polls show a close election because that will spur Democrats to get out and vote and Democrats out-number Republicans.

My vote for best line of the convention so far: "No way. No how. No McCain".

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Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

I saw most of Bill's speech, and he seemed to hit all the right notes after noting the primary race had been so heated that it "increased Global Warming" ...

It remains to be seen if the Clintons' great speeches this week will be enough to offset the negative fodder their previous attacks on Obama have provided for Republicans' pitbull strategists.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8004316/

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Here's a portion of an article whose theme is the transformation of the Democratic Party of 1908 into the Party of 2008.

States, commonwealths and territories grabbed their moments in the limelight -- Alabama stayed united behind Clinton, and everyone cheered; Illinois was strong for Obama, and everyone cheered; Guam asked for more self-determination, and everyone cheered.

It quickly became evident that Clinton delegates were breaking for Obama in a big way. Clinton had announced earlier in the day that she was casting her super-delegate vote for her former rival, and there was a "If he's good enough for Hillary..." vibe as the states announced. Michigan, where Obama wasn't even on the primary ballot, voted 125-27 for the Illinois senator.

Kathleen Weber, a delegate from Dubuque, Iowa, who started talking up Obama as a presidential candidate four years ago, was jumping up and down, saying, "I hope it's over."

And, in a few short minutes, it was.

New Jersey, a Clinton bastion, voted unanimously for Obama. Then, a wave of excitement swept through the Pepsi Center. Hillary Clinton was in the hall and making her way toward the New York delegation.

The delegation chair, veteran state legislator Sheldon Silver, called on "the great senator from New York." And Clinton spoke the words that formally opened the next chapter in the history of the Democratic party and perhaps the nation.

"With eyes firmly fixed on the future, in the spirit of unity, with the goal of victory, with faith in our party and our country, let's declare together in one voice right here right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president," said Clinton, as the crowd roared.

"I move Senator Barack Obama of Illinois be selected by the convention by acclamation as the nominee of the Democratic Party."

After the hall shook with applause and cheers, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called the question. "Yes," came the cry of the crowd. Pelosi briefly, very briefly, entertained the question of whether anyone wanted to say "no" and, while a few Clinton dead-enders might have liked to do so, Pelosi declared the nomination fight to be finished.

The crowd chanted, "Yes we can!" The old O'Jays song "Love Train" blared through the loudspeakers. Hugs. Kisses. High fives. Arms around shoulders. Euphoria. And, and... something that looked and felt an awfully lot like unity.

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This really is an historic moment we are witnessing this week. It's been 45 years since the legal barriers to full integration of the races fell. America moves very slowly, but it does move. This is one of those times when you tingle with pride.

(Whole article: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/349600 )

I miss the roll call vote from when I was a kid. The Democrats had an older woman from somewhere in the South with this wonderful soft drawl who read the state names. I swear it took her a minute and a half to say 'Alabama'...her voice was low and resonating.