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Nowhere Man
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| But does he sincerely believe what he said or has he been coached on talking points? |
Coached. Was Bobby Knight or Ditka. Can't recall. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I actually don't dislike O'Reilly even though I almost never agree with him because he has a good rapport even with people like Bill Maher that he doesn't agree with at all, and he just likes debate for the sake of debate. |
I find him to be extremely unprofessional. He treats interviews like a competition that he has to win. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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I actually don't dislike O'Reilly even though I almost never agree with him because he has a good rapport even with people like Bill Maher that he doesn't agree with at all, and he just likes debate for the sake of debate. |
I find him to be extremely unprofessional. He treats interviews like a competition that he has to win. |
Maybe I should rephrase that. What I mean is that O'Reilly is actually a remarkably easy person to get on your side because the most important thing for him is going on his show and talking to him, and if you answer all his silly questions he'll defend you as an honest straight-talker even if he doesn't agree, which is different from people like Hannity that are so wed to their ideology and party that it doesn't matter if you go on their show and answer their questions or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgV9fTP13Q |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| You may be right. But I think an interview is an opportunity for discussion and even a hostile interview can be done with good taste. HARDtalk on the BBC, for example. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Thirdly, I want to see McCain answer the same questions and get the same pressure that Obama had. |
Amy Goodman interviewing John McCain. I wonder how many Republicans would do anything but guffaw and chuckle at that idea. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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As I thought, O'Reilly is generally impressed by people that'll sit down and give a really long interview. Here's his column:
http://www.billoreilly.com/newslettercolumn;jsessionid=B1C78B6E13E12575400759A83AF3486C?pid=24183
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Like him or not, you have to give Barack Obama credit for waging a smart, focused campaign. Destroying the Clinton machine was a major achievement and so was putting together a successful convention in Denver. Obama is now firmly a part of U.S. history, no matter what happens in the presidential election.
The problem some Americans continue to have with the Senator is that he is long on charisma but short on detail. This frightens some voters. Who the heck is this guy, anyway? So when Obama finally agreed to speak to me this week, specifics were on my mind.
First, the man. The Barack Obama I witnessed is self-confident, determined and driven. He was acutely aware of his surroundings from the moment he entered the room. He looks you in the eye and touches your shoulder. He understands how to connect one-on-one.
As far as philosophy goes, Senator Obama is convinced that the federal government should be in control of income distribution and, to some extent, should regulate the free marketplace. That is a classic liberal position, and Obama promotes it well.
The Senator also believes that poor Americans have a basic right to free health care and monetary supplements from the government with no strings attached. The American substance abuser, for example, would derive the same benefit as a hard working, laid off worker would. Again, classic liberalism. No judgments made regarding entitlements.
So, if Barack Obama does become president, there will definitely be change. His left-wing base will demand it, and he will come through. You can decide if that's change we should believe in, but keep in mind that the unintended consequences of government interference in the marketplace are impossible to predict. Free markets have a way of chafing under government imposition.
On the foreign policy front, Obama has convinced me that he is tough but cautious. He rose up quickly because he vehemently opposed the Iraq war. But now I see a man who understands the victory that has taken place in Iraq. I don't believe he wants to screw that up. I could be wrong.
After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy�that he wants the best for all Americans. He's an ideologue, but not a blind one. He understands that his story is incredible, and, I have come to believe, he is grateful to the American system for allowing it happen.
It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders.
Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position�that of the most powerful person in the world.
God help him.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| O'Reily wasn't that bad in the clip I saw. He's certainly acted worse before. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think the interview showed Obama is ready for dialogue with all Americans. He is ready to listen and that quality of "listening" is what makes him very special. He doesn't blather or hog the stage but will let others talk and say their peace - good or bad.
I believe any good journalist has to have some 'slant" but O'Reilly just takes it too far. He qualifies everything, always making sure that his own political beliefs get aired. He can't just let things stand as they are.
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| I think a reporter can ask tough questions, but being respectful...like Tim Russert. |
Are you kidding? What planet are you living on? Russert was a good reporter, hard worker BUT he never asked a tough question in his life. He served a purpose and that was why so many people showed up at his send off........ used to be that journalists always could judge the worth of a colleague by the (low) number of non-journalists at the funeral. These days its the exact opposite.
Sorry for getting off track.
DD |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ddeubel: the American media provides all kinds of fora and outlets, some friendly, some hostile, and some in between, T. Russert, for example. Until your revolution succeeds and enables you to force your incoherent dictatorship onto the rest of us, I am afraid that you are going to have to deal with it, my friend.
I do fully agree with you that B. O'Riley seems (to me, at least) more menace and simply obnoxious than valuable in any way. But c'est la vie. |
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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As for Obama just hashing out talking points, I believe he's as sincere as a politician is likely to be.
The guy who convinced me of this was Cass Susstein, reading his stuff in the New Republic. Susstein has libertarian tendencies, and he's a law prof. at the University of Chicago (where Obama worked), which is a top 5 university in America, but also probably the most conservative of all elite universities. He knows Obama well, and he makes a convincing case that he's a very reflective guy.
There was also an *excellent* profile by Ryan Lizza in the New Yorker (yeah, the one that had the Obama crazy muslim cartoon, ironically enough).
If you want to assess Obama, I'd really recommend these pieces. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Secondly, after seeing the interview, I'm more convinced that Obama isn't our man. |
Why exactly? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I thought Bill was back to his obnoxious self in that clip. Thought Obama came across as knowing his facts and made a good case for his economic ideas. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
I thought Bill was back to his obnoxious self in that clip. Thought Obama came across as knowing his facts and made a good case for his economic ideas. |
I actually like Obama in these videos and I thought it showed him as a great statesmen.
I watched the third one tonight and I thought O'reilly asked a good question. Why does Obama associate himself so much with radical lefties? MoveON, DailyKos, Pastor and Myer? I really didn't feel Obama answered this as well as he could have. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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