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Father killed children after losing custody
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
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Thanks court system of Canada, Britain, and U.S.A. for wonderful family stories like the one cited by the OP. If you don't think so, just imagine a mother raising two children not being granted custody, not through neglect, but by virtue of not having a pen!s. That's how the system works now. If you don't have a vagina and you weren't married, then you have no rights, except the right to pay child support and university tuition for the next 22 years.


Whatever the rights and wrongs of the court system, the guy proved the court right, in that he clearly wasn't suitable to raise children. Children are not pawns to be used to 'get back at' the ex or the system.

Even if I were told I could never see my kids again, I would be in terrible pain, and I might feel a terrible rage - but I wouldn't kill my beautiful boys to spite the court or their father! Jesus!


of course not, but it should make you outraged that fathers have their children taken away from them simply for not having a vagina.


I look at it from the children's point of view. The children deserve to be allowed full contact with both parents, unless a parent is deemed harmful to the child. They should also be given access to all grandparents, with the same caveat.

At least in Australia, they are making sure kids have access to both parents as much as possible. No child should be kept from their parent, unless s/he is a danger to them.


Would that be unmarried parents as well? Simply not the case in Canada. Unmarried fathers have no custody.


In Australia, common law marriages are becoming pretty much like formal registered marriages, in the eyes of the law. I thought this was happening everywhere?
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me old fashioned, but if you father a child you owe that kid something.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:

Thanks court system of Canada, Britain, and U.S.A. for wonderful family stories like the one cited by the OP. If you don't think so, just imagine a mother raising two children not being granted custody, not through neglect, but by virtue of not having a pen!s. That's how the system works now. If you don't have a vagina and you weren't married, then you have no rights, except the right to pay child support and university tuition for the next 22 years.


Whatever the rights and wrongs of the court system, the guy proved the court right, in that he clearly wasn't suitable to raise children. Children are not pawns to be used to 'get back at' the ex or the system.

Even if I were told I could never see my kids again, I would be in terrible pain, and I might feel a terrible rage - but I wouldn't kill my beautiful boys to spite the court or their father! Jesus!


of course not, but it should make you outraged that fathers have their children taken away from them simply for not having a vagina.


I look at it from the children's point of view. The children deserve to be allowed full contact with both parents, unless a parent is deemed harmful to the child. They should also be given access to all grandparents, with the same caveat.

At least in Australia, they are making sure kids have access to both parents as much as possible. No child should be kept from their parent, unless s/he is a danger to them.


Would that be unmarried parents as well? Simply not the case in Canada. Unmarried fathers have no custody.


In Australia, common law marriages are becoming pretty much like formal registered marriages, in the eyes of the law. I thought this was happening everywhere?


That's only in regards to common property. When it comes to children, unmarried fathers don't have the same rights as a married father, certainly not in Canada at least.

To Leslie Chadwyk, call me old fashioned, but children have a right to see their fathers and to have that right guaranteed. Not just to have someone sending a cheque every month.
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that too, blasphemer! That is, unless the father is some sort of psycho like the one in the OP.
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