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Join Me

Joined: 14 Jan 2008

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:

Gopher wrote:

I received an email in a university community -- that is right, local B. Obama supporters unapologetically violating university policy by using university facilities to promote their politics, in spite of numerous warnings from dean's level officials to stop doing this (Obama's supporters have been doing this for weeks here) -- asking for all women to appear in a specific location this weekend. All should wear blue and all should appear for the photo op in order to demonstrate that there are so many women actively involved in the Obama campaign. They said they did not really care whether the "activists" remained for the activism -- door-to-door campaigning. What they cared most about was the photo op which they will send with their press release describing themselves and advertising their strength. They wanted a massive amount of women to appear for the photo op.

Image (the photo op) over substance (door-to-door campaigning).

These represent the average Obama supporter -- along with those who have followed the Republicans to their rallies with their camcorders to bait them or appeared at their speeches to heckle them. Self-righteous and disengenuous. And of course, far more stable emotionally and more developed intellectually than all those mentally-ill Republicans whom they despise so much. Obsessed with harping on conservatives' faults and shortcomings, if not evilness; but unable and unwilling to recognize anything at all wrong with their own side, but for, as the ever so indignant Ya-ta Boy points out, a small handful on the fringes. Nice combination.

Can hardly wait to see how they govern.

Let's see....a party of young, creative people that know how to use the media to their advantage or a bunch of old racists that use the media to make themselves and their party look like old fools. You know who is getting my vote.

joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject:

IncognitoHFX wrote:

Christians shouldn't have the right to vote. They have demonstrated an inability to think rationally, therefore, they should not be allowed to make any informed decisions on behalf of anyone except themselves.

Oh wait, in American politics, everyone is a Christian. That's very depressing.

You know, I'm your friend and I"m a little offended with this post. I'm Christian and I don't think I, or anyone in my family is too stupid to make a rational decision based upon the facts. Anyway I won't flame you any farther than cause I know you're not talking about Christians who are capable of rational thought.

People who do not understand what they are talking about should know to censor themselves when they are in some sort of political discussion. They should know how to process a comment to someone who is in the front running to be the leader of one of the most powerful nations on earth. Religion has no basis in government. So it shouldn't matter if Obama is Arabic, Satanist, Muslim, Scientologist...

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

IncognitoHFX wrote:

I don't know about the Scientologist... Smile

joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

IncognitoHFX wrote:

I don't know about the Scientologist... :)

Yeah you're probably right. Scientologists should be discriminated against. They aren't able to think rationally.

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject:

Join Me wrote:

Let's see....a party of young, creative people that know how to use the media to their advantage...You know who is getting my vote.

You just described the National Socialist German Workers' Party, among many others. I think you want to more carefully articulate the principles upon which you base your vote, Join Me.

JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:26 am Post subject:

Christ on the cross. Two pages and already three references to fascism and Nazism. I love American politics. It's so fantastically overblown.

IncognitoHFX wrote:

It is funny that American politicians have to play the christ card but there is no way it is fair to take the vote away from Christians. They would secretly love it anyway as it would give them a chance to play martyr. Never let them do that. Just ignoring them is the best way.

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:09 am Post subject:

JMO wrote:

I love American politics.

Actually, it is clear that you do not. It is clear that you hold deeply-entrenched antiAmerican views and enjoy commenting on selective bits and pieces of American affairs from a harshly negative perspective because you derive a smug sense of cultural superiority from it. And that is the point of much antiAmericanism from Canada and Western Europe, incidentally. Has been so since at least as early as G. Greene's Quiet American.

Oh yeah, I forgot: you cannot be antiAmerican because you have American artists on your iPod, right? Just like Mithridates cannot be antiAmerican because he likes NASA. You people should grow up and at least be honest with yourselves.

Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Re: The Average McCain Supporter?

Join Me wrote:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/10/11/supporters_jeer_as_mccain_calls_obama_a_decent_person/

This lady got up at one of McCain's rallies and said she "donut" (I swear she said "donut") trust Obama because he is an "Arab." Is this what the McCain / Palin camp is all about? We like Palin cause she has nice frames on her glasses and we don't like Obama cause he looks like an Arab? This is the Republican base? Such deep thinkers.

I caught the video of this McCain supporter on the news and couldn't stop laughing. McCain couldn't get away from her quick enough. The best part is that McCain will now be in hot water with the Arab American community. His reply to the lady was to say that Obama is not an Arab. McCain said Obama is a "decent man." Arabs aren't decent?

That is a disturbing article.

Sadly, it DOES seem like the Republican Party fuels its base on fear and hate-mongering. It certainly isn't running on much else. Economy - NO, less taxes - NO.

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:13 am Post subject:

Let us assume that your reduction of the Republican Party to "hate" is true and complete.

This disclaimer...

Tiger Beer wrote:

Sadly...

is nonsense and more than that: a lie. It does not cause you sadness but happiness. It justifies your anti-Republican politics and reaffirms that liberals are morally superior, not only because they can see this in the Republicans but because they base their politics on the opposite: "peace" and "love," things that the Republicans supposedly reject.

The election-year partisan knowledge/power games are getting old. At this point each side is only annoying the other and furthering the distance between them.

travel zen

Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject:

I'll vote for McCain 'cause ma hogs get all rilled up when dey see him on TeeVee.. I'll vote McCain cause I like the old Nixon/Kissinger..the old Woodrow Wilson system of government. I'll vote McCain cause America should NEVER change ! Ever. Obamas rivals seem to be in a hurry to trip over themsleves (McCain and Hilary)

Milwaukiedave

Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:

Maybe taking a monkey doll to a McCain rally and putting an Obama sticker on it would be a good idea? Well in theory until someone video tapes it. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry4515246.shtml

aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject:

Blacks are voting for Obama because he's black, I heard it from one or two of them! Should be interesting how many white people do the same.

IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject:

Hank the Iconoclast wrote:

I'm not really a Christian or anything but that post is full of sh*t. Do you really think all Christians are like that? Taking away someone's right to vote just because of their religious beliefs is fascism.

Maybe I should've put a "mainstream" in there, but I didn't think I had to. Yes, there are some Christians, off to the side, that I would put my "faith" into in terms of making the right decision.

However, as it is becoming evident, mainstream Christianity is becoming more and more extreme and the majority of worshippers in the US (including those in office now) have already crossed the line between religious and fanatical. The United States is no longer a country rooted in a secular constitution, and when a certain religious group corrupted those fine lines that belief system lost it's right to claim special exemption from criticism.

Faiths have been a sacred cow for long enough and people can't just sit by and let them corrupt governments while not saying or doing anything about it. Tough times call for harsh words. This century should be all about secular humanism, not a two-thousand year old book written on animal skins by people who didn't know what a germ was or the shape of the Earth.

Also, take in mind I said Christian and not Muslim or Jewish. Those religions are not causing major problems such as these in the United States.

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I can see taking away a person's right to vote if they are a felon but just because of a different opinion? Ludicrous.

It's not a different opinion. It's a massive capacity for delusion. They're delusional. It's like asking the question, "should mentally unstable be allowed to enter office?" The public has already "voted" on this and let one run the country. Evangelicals in the US estimate at around 80 million. 80 freaking million, and that's just the fundamentalists! That's almost a third of the country! It's not just a "different opinion".

It's one of the world's largest cults and possibly the world's most powerful and influential cult! Watching this massive cult control an extremely influential country while acting outside of rational thought is terrifying. Why are you not terrified?

Its no less disturbing than watching the Nazis rise to power. No less at all.

This thing needs to be ripped apart at the seems in a very aggressive way before it gets worse. Taking the power from Bush and giving it to someone who is not secretively making his "base" that of religion will be a massive triumph for democracy and for human kind.

Anyway, I'd like to add that I'm not trying to put all Christians in the same bucket. Damn political correctness forcing me to clarify everything I say. I'd also like to add that I'm happy with the way that McCain handled the situation even though it was a major blow to his support base.

Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

Quote:

There are thousands of just as f'ed up folks on the Left.

Had you said 'a handful' or even maybe 'a couple of dozen' I wouldn't challenge you, but I'd like proof of 'thousands'.

Have never heard of the weather underground?

Maybe there are a few ignoramuses on the repub side of the aisle, however before throwing stones in your glass house, I ask you to read about the extreme left in America.

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)

..and remember we're not talking about an anonymous face in the crowd we're talking about an early sponsor and self proclaimed terrorist and bomber Bill Ayers.

...and Michelle Obama's best friend Bernadine Dohrn from her days at Sidley Austin.

You want to talk extreme views you gotta look at both sides here.

Bombing and declaring war on America are a far stretch from simple ignorance.

Now I wouldn't characterize Bill and Bernadine as the democratic base, but I think they play a much bigger role in Obama's campaign than the little old Arabophobic grandma from Podunkville plays in the McCain Campaign.

Now continue your nonsensical rant without reading my suggested links and remain comfortable in your ignorance.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject:

Mithridates is not anti-American, Gopher.

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