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Ivor
Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Wherever you are!! Really! (in Daejeon)
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Mine takes 4 mins 30 secs..
Any tips ?? |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Tip #1, read the thread.
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Check in your taskbar for starters. Anything that isn't part of windows or your antivirus - sift through the settings and disable "run on start up" or "start automatically" or whatever.
In the future make sure you don't let programs set themselves to run on startup. Doing those two things should go a long way toward fixing the issue. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I use Vista 64 with 4gb RAM and dual-core CPU. It takes under a minute to get Firefox up and running with all the add-ons.
4 minutes? Even my 4 year old laptop with 512mb RAM and a 700mhz CPU can do it in much less time. |
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Gaber
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Mine probably takes about 4 mins from power up to a working Firefox. I've looked at my processes and it looks like the most time consuming piece of bloatware at startup is Steam. Too bad, that's not going anywhere. I'm also well overdue for a defrag, but doing so would require deleting 50gigs of stuff to get the required 15% free drive space. |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
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Boot into windows time is what counts. From boot to internet browsing can slow down if youve got a bunch of apps that load themselves during startup and these will slow everything down.
Also FF usually takes a long time to start, in comparison to IE. |
I disagree. I think the time from pressing the power button to using the app you want to use is exactly the most important statistic to measure. The first thing I do every time I turn on my computer is check my email. I don't really care that I can get to a windows splash screen in under a minute because the computer is basically unusable at that point. |
But every app takes a different time to load, so boot times will vary everytime. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| I_Am_The_Kiwi wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| I_Am_The_Kiwi wrote: |
Boot into windows time is what counts. From boot to internet browsing can slow down if youve got a bunch of apps that load themselves during startup and these will slow everything down.
Also FF usually takes a long time to start, in comparison to IE. |
I disagree. I think the time from pressing the power button to using the app you want to use is exactly the most important statistic to measure. The first thing I do every time I turn on my computer is check my email. I don't really care that I can get to a windows splash screen in under a minute because the computer is basically unusable at that point. |
But every app takes a different time to load, so boot times will vary everytime. |
You're missing the point, which is that there is a lot of dead time after the login/splash screen and the time at which you are actually able to do anything with Windows which is why the time from power to login/splash is a meaningless stat. If you can't actually DO anything at that time, why bother measuring it? |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I checked mine...1m 23s from power start to opening a broswer.
I guess I never noticed because I never sit in front of my PC waiting for it to power up. I turn it on then go do other morning routine stuff while it fires up. I can't imagine just sitting there doing nothing while waiting for it. Oh well, different strokes for different folks. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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PC's have never taken 4 minutes to boot up. Another anti-Windows myth put around by the Mac cult.
My newish PC with Vista Ultimate takes less than 20 seconds to boot up.
When will Mac users stop taking the Kool-aid.........? I mean, really.....4 minutes to boot up!!!
Oh, and being proud of the fact that your Macbook takes over 1 minute to boot up.....  ......you lost the argument right away.... |
1. Nice knee-jerk reaction to blame mac users for the article. FYI, it was written by a newspaper reporter in Korea (who is most likely using a PC) and there is NO mention of macs whatsoever.
2. I'm calling BS on your 20 second boot up. I'm using raptors in RAID with a stripped down OS and no bloatware and can't get that sort of number. |
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Bread
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| It was written by a Korean. Computers in Asia seem to be made as cheaply as possible, so it's not surprising that they're pieces of shit that take 5 minutes to boot and can only play Starcraft. |
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Zutronius
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| It takes my laptop around 40 seconds to boot to Ubuntu. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
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PC's have never taken 4 minutes to boot up. Another anti-Windows myth put around by the Mac cult.
My newish PC with Vista Ultimate takes less than 20 seconds to boot up.
When will Mac users stop taking the Kool-aid.........? I mean, really.....4 minutes to boot up!!!
Oh, and being proud of the fact that your Macbook takes over 1 minute to boot up..... ......you lost the argument right away.... |
1. Nice knee-jerk reaction to blame mac users for the article. FYI, it was written by a newspaper reporter in Korea (who is most likely using a PC) and there is NO mention of macs whatsoever.
2. I'm calling BS on your 20 second boot up. I'm using raptors in RAID with a stripped down OS and no bloatware and can't get that sort of number. |
Well, the OP mentioned that his Mac booted up in over 1 minute. I guessed he was comparing his Mac to the PC's in the article which were supposed to take over 4 minutes. Not a wild connection to make, I think.
When I first installed Vista x64 on my PC with an overclocked E8400 and 4 gigs RAM, and before I added the AV and monitoring tools like Everest, it took no more than 20 seconds to boot up. I never actually timed it though. But it was definitely very fast to the desktop from power. After I had switched off a couple of things in BIOS which made it a few seconds faster.
These days, with AV and other tools loaded, MSN Messenger, Skype, etc it takes about 44 seconds until the desktop starts responding to keyboard and mouse. I timed 1:14 until Google Chrome got to homepage.
Personally, I think it's all meaningless. Our lives aren't really that busy that we should be concerned too much whether it takes 1 minute or more to boot up.
Besides, my PC runs 24/7, 365 days. I never have to wait for a boot-up!! (except when installing software which requires it.......and that's getting rarer these days.) |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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The original NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/technology/26boot.html
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| Even Microsoft, whose bloated Windows software is often blamed for sluggish start times, has pledged to do its part in the next version of the operating system, saying on a company blog that �a very good system is one that boots in under 15 seconds.� Today only 35 percent of machines running the latest version of Windows, called Vista, boot in 30 seconds or less, the blog notes. (Apple Macintoshes tend to boot more quickly than comparable Windows machines but still feel glacially slow to most users.) |
The original Chosun article is basically paraphrasing the NYT. Nice "reporting." |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| So Windows 7 boots in 15 seconds? Might be something to get excited about after all. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I still don't think it's a big deal. Boot-up time. I'd much rather have a great OS than a fast-booting one. But, as I said, that's because I never turn my machine off. |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Well I was using it to make an inference, but on second thought I guess it depends:
If they're not placing increased emphasis on boot time then it would suggest that the OS as a whole is a much more efficient piece of software. Of course there's always a possibility that they just moved everything they could to load AFTER the splash screen. 
As for boot time itself, not a big deal to me as I only drop to sleep mode. But the possibility that the OS might actually be as good as they've been claiming would be something to get excited about. |
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