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HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?

Tiger Beer"

I didn't vote for Bush in 2000.

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I think you and I just approach 'support' significantly different. I notice you support Bush 100% with ZERO questions on any aspect.

On domestic policy? Probably I agree with him 20% of the time. Do I support his tax cuts? Not really. Do I like the fact that he bascially punted on the issue of alternative energy? His biggest failing.I think he ought to have raised gas taxes right after 9-11.I still am a fan of Bill Clinton how many Bush supporters will tell you that. More to the point I have't busted on Obama except on 3 issues.

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: Re: HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?

ManintheMiddle wrote:

I haven't been viewing this forum for a few months but now it seems to be devoid of biting satire, juicy ad hominem attacks, and good old-fashioned sarcasm. In other words, it seems to have become rather pedestrian, no offense fellow posters.

To what might we attribute this apparent turn to verbal mush?

Or do you take exception to my observation?

To be honest, I kinda miss Steve McGarrett and I'd like to hear more from Gopher and Adventurer, although I'll admit the absence of jinju was no big loss.

Yes, the board has been much more humdrum since Igotthisguitar was pushed out by the neocon contingent.

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Re: HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:

Igtg was an extremist but then again you supported the same candidate he did . Remember Igtg was a Ron Paul supporter just as you were.

The good, old association fallacy.

So then, since the KKK supports John McCain, Joo and the KKK are the same.

Rolling Eyes

Anyway, to address the OP, it is pretty incredible how people get their panties all up in a bunch over an election in which, as Canuckistan has pointed out, 50% of the votes will go through electronic pipelines of a company which has associations with the Republican Party with no paper trail where they can be tampered with. And in any event whoever wins will just lead to more of the same.

Talk about the real issues, and maybe we can cook the pablum into a hot, gourmet meal (although I'd settle for average Mexican food).

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: Re: HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:

And remember Ron Paul voted against every bill regarding alternative energy but you had no problem supporting him despite that and you weren't happy to see that fact come out. Supporting a candiate who is against government support of alternative energy. What kind of concern for national security is that?

Ron Paul voted against SUBSIDIES for alternative energy which would not have been necessary if the government also gave up its subsidies to the mainstream energy industry, subsidies Ron Paul also opposed. We'd be on a fast track to alternative energy right now.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:18 am Post subject:

Gopher wrote:

On the other hand wrote:

... Kissinger was participating in a satanic sex orgy while ordering the execution of Allende. Among other of IGTG's more idiosyncratic assertions.

I never saw that one. But I would love to get the cite. Do you recall what source IGTG posted when he alleged that particular gem?

I cab't find the original thread, but our exchange went something like this...

I said that IGTG had somewhat comic-book view of politics, and that he probably envisioned Kissinger "stroking a cat in a darkened room" while giving orders about the Chilean coup. IGTG responded with...

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He was stroking something in a darkened room! Shocked

That's a direct quote, right down to the emoticon. I don't think he was trying to suggest that Kissinger was literally at a sex orgy when he made whatever decisions he made re: Chile. He was just reiterating his overall theme about world leaders being involved in a satanic sex cult.

Tiger Beer wrote:

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I am not familiar with IGTG postings that well, except that he/she is a bit extreme leftist, right?

I'd say his worldview has more in common with mystical, populist, conspiracy theories, rooted in anti-semitic propaganda, than with any respectable left-wing theory. I'm not sure if he ever confirmed outright that he was a follower of David Icke, but he was pretty much in the same camp.

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:43 am Post subject:

I still the he was a she -- and she was probably on meds for one paranoia disorder or another.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: HAS THIS FORUM BECOME WARM PABLUM?

bacasper wrote:

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:

It costs much more to get oil in the US than it does from Saudi Arabia.
Without tax breaks to oil companies the US would just buy more oil from overseas, There is nothing wrong with ending tax breaks to oil companies, just as long as you also match it with a tax imported oil .

If the US did what Ron Paul said the US would just have less domestic production.

OPEC makes the iol companies seem like the fairy godmother in comparison.

NoExplode

Joined: 15 Oct 2008

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:

hello.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

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pushed out by the neocon contingent

We have neocons on the board? Please name names.

Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: ...

Nowhere Man wrote:

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Igothisguitar said the same thing. Well there isn't that much difference between you and him anyway.

We have less than a week now. Would you care to tell us, one more time for posterity's sake, what the REAL reason for the Iraq war was?

To kill Saddam Hussein.

Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

Tiger Beer wrote:

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I am not familiar with IGTG postings that well, except that he/she is a bit extreme leftist, right?

That's right, I remember now. I absolutely LOATHE conspiracy theorists. Actually, I put them in the same camp as war-mongerers, one with power, and the other without. I never read (or had any interest to read) the Kissinger thread or any other paranoid conspiracy theorist thread...

I do recall IGTG's anti-semitic progonda, which shifts over to the right wing fringe...

If IGTG and myself agreed with anything...it was probably an interest in Ron Paul and a strong disinterest in neo-cons for me (and her fear of government for her which might have correponded with each other)...but I think the majority of IGTG postings, if I would have had any interest to read them, I would have disagreed with their fundamental message over and over again.

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If I appear left to some people it is because our country has shifted so significantly to the far right, and I'm NOT a fan of that direction whatsoever, and vocally open about that. If you put me in a room of all leftists, I will appear to the right (hence perhaps why elements of Ron Paul actually appeal to me).

Regardless, in that middle, seems to be where Obama is at. I haven't seen him embrace any leftist element of his party, whereas I see McCain/Palin embracing ALL of their rightwing nutjob elements of their party.

I haven't seen one RED FLAG yet with Obama. He appears to be a very solid, cautious, and actually quite a bit conservative in most aspects. His choice of Biden, a conservative choice. His 2004 speech, we are not a red America, not a blue America, we are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. I buy into unity and solidarity and I buy into America. He seems to surround himself with the very best people in our nation, and I DO see a lot of things I really like with his possible administration.

I do NOT buy into polarization, the 'other' mentalities, divisive politicians or people, fringe factors, nutjobs, fruit loops or the other elements so often fighting for a role in world politics and national leaders. I see McCain buying into ALL of that however. If I saw Obama equally going into all of his fringe leftwing nutcase elements of his party, I would be VERY cautious, but with all of the people he is surrounding himself with, I certainly do NOT see that to be the case whatsoever.

ManintheMiddle

Joined: 20 Oct 2008

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

bacasper noted:

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Yes, the board has been much more humdrum since Igotthisguitar was pushed out by the neocon contingent.

Don't know about that but he was almost as tiresome as EFLTrainer. But don't worry, I think ddeubel will fit in his shoes.

So was the "neocom [as in neocommunist] contingent" responsible for stevemcgarrett/bookemdanno's ouster?

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:36 am Post subject:

ManintheMiddle wrote:

So was the "neocom [as in neocommunist] contingent" responsible for stevemcgarrett/bookemdanno's ouster?

So that's whose sock you are Exclamation

ManintheMiddle

Joined: 20 Oct 2008

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject:

Frank, Moon just rung me up and says she wants a new name.

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject:

I have no problem if someone wants to change his name. It's just nice to know it's the same person, Dweezil.

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