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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| I do believe you have to be at least a green card holder to join the American military. |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Holy smokes. I knew it was tight but I'd no idea it was that tight.
I wonder if it's the same for the secret service? I watched a CBC show called 'Intelligence' about spies and black marketeers in Vancouver, and it looked kinda fun...in a bureaucratic way... |
Bad guys are trying to infiltrate...Canada? What the hell for?  |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Canadians can only join the U.S. military if they have a Green card. And it can take up to several years to get a Green Card. If you have family in the U.S. it might be easier. But without a job or job offer, getting a Green Card is pretty tough.
Also, if you've lived outside of Canada for more than 3 years, then you're in for at least a 1 to 2 year wait to be security cleared for the CF or RCMP.
the CF is quite a small organization and there are many more opportunities for variety in the U.S. Military. |
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D-Man
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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To be honest with you I don't give a flying rats a$$ about the great white north. I only lived 45% of my life in that crap hole, it was expensive and not much fun. I couldn't care less if that country dispeared overnight in a bigg mushroom cloud.
I still wished my mom would have immigrated to the USA. |
A bit harsh dude...........you're probably the one that's not much fun.  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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To be honest with you I don't give a flying rats a$$ about the great white north. I only lived 45% of my life in that crap hole, it was expensive and not much fun. I couldn't care less if that country dispeared overnight in a bigg mushroom cloud.
I still wished my mom would have immigrated to the USA. |
A bit harsh dude...........you're probably the one that's not much fun. |
Awww. Imagine if his mommy had just bought him that pony too!
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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To be honest with you I don't give a flying rats a$$ about the great white north. I only lived 45% of my life in that crap hole, it was expensive and not much fun. I couldn't care less if that country dispeared overnight in a bigg mushroom cloud.
I still wished my mom would have immigrated to the USA. |
A bit harsh dude...........you're probably the one that's not much fun. |
He's right about the expensive and not much fun. I don't want my family to die though, so I care if it sticks around. I know I'm going to have to go back eventually...  |
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Hyeon Een
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I do believe you have to be at least a green card holder to join the American military. |
Your beliefs are wrong. At least for the marines anyway. Fu*k even back in 2000 some US recruiter reckoned he could sign me up and I'm a Brit haha.
Anyway it's quite a big thing these days for central Americans and other types to join the Marines. They get a green card after completing 4 years service I believe.
(I hope I'm not being un-PC by criticising your beliefs  ) |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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OP are you just trying to move to the US or do you actually want to join the army?
If you want to live in the US, you should use the TN Nafta visa. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| I do believe you have to be at least a green card holder to join the American military. |
Your beliefs are wrong. At least for the marines anyway. Fu*k even back in 2000 some US recruiter reckoned he could sign me up and I'm a Brit haha.
Anyway it's quite a big thing these days for central Americans and other types to join the Marines. They get a green card after completing 4 years service I believe.
(I hope I'm not being un-PC by criticising your beliefs ) |
Of course Korean recruiters will tell you you don't need a degree to teach English. Your recruiter might have thought you could first qualify for a green card.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/26/news/military.php
"Currently, Pentagon policy stipulates that only immigrants legally residing in the United States are eligible to enlist."
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/f/noncitizen.htm
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Question: Can a non-U.S. Citizen join the United States Military?
Answer: Yes. A non-citizen can enlist in the military. However, federal law prohibits non-citizens from becoming commission or warrant officers.
In order for a non-citizen to enlist in the military, he/she must first be a legal immigrant (with a green card), permamently residing in the United States. It's important to note that the military cannot and will not assist in the immigration process. One must immigrate first, using normal immigration quotas and procedures, and -- once they've established an address in the United States -- they can find a recruiter's office and apply for enlistment. |
If you have an official link that contradicts the above, I would like to see it. And no, it's not un-PC to be wrong.
There is this from 2007 (long after 2000):
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?grpId=-1&articleId=281474976935718
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| A recent change in US law has given the Pentagon authority to bring immigrants to the United States for the sole purpose of enlisting them in the military. So far, the Pentagon has not taken advantage of it, but the calls are growing to take use the new authority. |
So I dunno. There maybe a law on the backburner but it doesn't look like it's being used. It may be referring to the DREAM Act:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
But that doesn't much look like a Canadian or Brit can enlist. It appears to be targeted at illegals in the US school system. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Your beliefs are wrong.
At least for the marines anyway. Fu*k even back in 2000 some US recruiter reckoned he could sign me up and I'm a Brit haha.
Anyway it's quite a big thing these days for central Americans and other types to join the Marines. They get a green card after completing 4 years service I believe.
(I hope I'm not being un-PC by criticising your beliefs ) |
I'd say "Your beliefs are wrong" and that you're not being "un-PC", as much as you are uninformed.
I e-mailed the Recruiting Office for the U.S. Military and here's the response I received.
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U.S. Military Reply Re. Canadians Joining Marines
You are correct in that you must have a green card and we are not in a position to sponsor you. |
In fact, I e-mailed 3 or 4 different addresses including an online "Chat with a Recruiter" deal and was again told the same thing.
Here's another one:
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Thank you for your interest in the United States Army.
I regret to inform you that unless you are a U.S. citizen, U.S. National
or a legal resident alien of the U.S., you are not qualified to enlist in the United States Army.
Any office of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service can provide information concerning entry as a resident alien.
Their home page is: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis Their number is 1-800-375-5283 (inside the U.S. only). Army regulations prohibit us from assisting or sponsoring you into the United States. Once you have obtained an I-551 (green card) you can begin the process for enlistment.
Respectfully,
Billy Smith
CSC Representative (HalfAker)(Shift Leader) Customer Support
Communications Center United States Army Recruiting Command
[email protected]
http://www.goarmy.com,
http://www.futuresoldiers.com
Army Strong reflects the strength of the Army team, as well as the strength that lies within each Soldier - past, present and future. It is more than just physical strength, it is a strength of mind and character, forged through the Army's emphasis on personal development, individual values and teamwork. It also reflects the strength and pride of our Soldiers' families, friends and loved ones who understand, encourage and support them at home. There's Strong, and then there's Army Strong. |
I found one more reply after I searched my e-mail:
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Thank you very much for your interest in the United States Army.
You must be an American citizen or lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residency. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service can provide information; go to http://uscis.gov/graphics/Army regulations prohibit us from assisting or sponsoring you in to the United States. Once you have an I-551 (green card) you can pursue enlistment.
There is an exception to the policy above and that is if you are a Canadian Born American Indian who has an Indian Status card issued by your Tribal Council you will then be eligible to process for enlistment.
Respectfully,
Mr. Jeffrey A. Kuwaye
Cyber Recruiter
United States Army Recruiting Command
Email: [email protected]
http://www.goarmy.com |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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To be honest with you I don't give a flying rats a$$ about the great white north. I only lived 45% of my life in that crap hole, it was expensive and not much fun. I couldn't care less if that country dispeared overnight in a bigg mushroom cloud.
I still wished my mom would have immigrated to the USA. |
What a loser. I'm sure you would find anywhere distasteful, and we sure as hell don't need you. Boo-hoo baby. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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OP are you just trying to move to the US or do you actually want to join the army?
If you want to live in the US, you should use the TN Nafta visa. |
TN Nafta Visas are pretty easy to obtain, are they? |
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Rebound
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| I worked in the US Navy as a non-US citizen. I also knew another person who was a gifted engineer from Poland. He had a Ph.d., but he wanted to be a US citizen. So he enlisted, working in a job far below his capabilities, for 3 years and then got out and became a well paid engineering manager. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Bahahahahaha. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| blurgalurgalurga wrote: |
Holy smokes. I knew it was tight but I'd no idea it was that tight.
I wonder if it's the same for the secret service? I watched a CBC show called 'Intelligence' about spies and black marketeers in Vancouver, and it looked kinda fun...in a bureaucratic way... |
Bad guys are trying to infiltrate...Canada? What the hell for? |
Money. |
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