|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
|
 Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
 |
|
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages? |
And that as well. The LES, from what I understand, stopped being an artists' slum five years before I even got there.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| pkang0202 wrote: |
I'll be staying in NYC for 3 days, 2 nights.
Day 1:
Sightsee the major tourist attractions
Night 1: Rest in the Hotel
Day 2:
Shopping, sightseeing popular stores
Night 2: See a broadway musical
Day 3:
Wake up early and go to the airport.
I don't mind paying a little extra money in order to get a place in Manhattan if it means I don't have to worry about transportation. |
It will be far more convenient. You'll be exhausted enough without facing a commute at the end of every day. Hope you have a great time. NYC is a truly fantastic city. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
wow - there are so many - hmm - errors here - |
Well you do have that right.
| Quote: |
| once more, hostels in nyc are NOT a good idea - I've known people who stayed there and said they were dirty, scary and difficult to rest in - think about it - cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world - who is it going to attract? be safe, be secure - stay in a hotel - there really are less expensive ones around, if you check. |
As someone who has actually stayed in hostels in NYC, I can vouch that they are as safe as any other city in the world. There are crappy ones and decent ones.
| Quote: |
| Manhattan is NOT all expensive -there's plenty of great things to do and see, as well as to eat, for reasonable prices - cheap even - if you know where to go - as the locals do (like me) |
Well to some degree, yes. Cheap food in Chinatown. Food vendors are cheap. Obviously the Met can be done for free and parks obviously don't cost anything. Staten Island Ferry=free way to see NY harbor.
| Quote: |
| Brooklyn is NOT for the faint of heart - especially after dark - and since it closes down virtually all over around 8 p.m. - not a good recommendation unless someone is accompanying the person and they know exactly where they are and where they are going - Brooklyn Heights is a neighborhood - where a person might find good views is something one might have difficulty with finding upon first arrival - and one can just walk across the Brooklyn Bridge for that matter - but again, it's pretty difficult when one doesn't know one's way around. |
Now this is where you really go off the deep end. Two other people have corrected you in your gross generalization.
| Quote: |
| the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages? |
Actually the last I heard the Met was thinking, or already has, started to charge people. Sucks
If he'd been to manhattan in the past few years he would know that everything has been gentrified, and manhattan is full of nothing but "yuppies" whatever yuppies are supposed to mean nowadays.
Little Italy is a block long now. Chinatown is slowly disintegrating.
Oy. When was the last time you think this guy was in New York? The 1980's after watching the movie Wall Street? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages? |
And that as well. The LES, from what I understand, stopped being an artists' slum five years before I even got there.... |
Everything stopped having a personalities in manhattan in the 90's.
Sure crime is down, but you can't see lou reed passed out on junk in the bowery anymore. psssh. have to go to one of the boroughs the for that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| pkang0202 wrote: |
I'll be staying in NYC for 3 days, 2 nights.
Day 1:
Sightsee the major tourist attractions
Night 1: Rest in the Hotel
Day 2:
Shopping, sightseeing popular stores
Night 2: See a broadway musical
Day 3:
Wake up early and go to the airport.
I don't mind paying a little extra money in order to get a place in Manhattan if it means I don't have to worry about transportation. |
I'd suggest midtown for shopping, or SoHo. Soho is less crowded, but might be more expensive than midtown. The famous macy's is a block from penn station in midtown. Almost every train stops there. Check out the NFT maps i linked to if you need em. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| MikeGrey wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
I'll be staying in NYC for 3 days, 2 nights.
Day 1:
Sightsee the major tourist attractions
Night 1: Rest in the Hotel
Day 2:
Shopping, sightseeing popular stores
Night 2: See a broadway musical
Day 3:
Wake up early and go to the airport.
I don't mind paying a little extra money in order to get a place in Manhattan if it means I don't have to worry about transportation. |
I'd suggest midtown for shopping, or SoHo. Soho is less crowded, but might be more expensive than midtown. The famous macy's is a block from penn station in midtown. Almost every train stops there. Check out the NFT maps i linked to if you need em. |
SoHo, definitely. Of course I don't have a scrap of clothing that cost more than thirty bucks, so I don't know about the prices or what's available, but walking around SoHo and looking into the shops.... far superior atmosphere. Plus, you can see a film at the Angelika after. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Oh -- and be forewarned that every single time I have ever taken anyone to the Empire State Building, the observation deck has been closed. Especially in winter. And they don't always tell you this at the ground floor, so be sure to ask. You can still get a nice view from inside the gift shop at the top, but it's usually pretty crowded and, in my opinion, really not worth the money/time wasted standing in line. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| MikeGrey wrote: |
Actually the last I heard the Met was thinking, or already has, started to charge people. Sucks
|
Well right now they just make it seem like you have to pay (lots of ticket windows with large signs saying 20 bucks), but there is no ticket taker or anything like that. Well at least when I was there (admittedly 18 months ago), but my friend still goes there on a regular basis w/no problem. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| MikeGrey wrote: |
Actually the last I heard the Met was thinking, or already has, started to charge people. Sucks
|
Well right now they just make it seem like you have to pay (lots of ticket windows with large signs saying 20 bucks), but there is no ticket taker or anything like that. Well at least when I was there (admittedly 18 months ago), but my friend still goes there on a regular basis w/no problem. |
Well thats good to hear. A few months ago my girlfriend told me that the Met was probably going to change it from suggested donation to pay or die. Or something along those lines.
Hopefully they won't have to. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nicam
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, as a New Yorker I will also advise you NOT to stay in Newark. I once cried real tears trying to get from Newark to Lower West Halem, as it was not an easy journey.
You will probably find the best deals on hotels in the Hells Kitchen or Midtown area. It's a good central location too, and despite that fact that Midtown and Times Square are the two most awful places in Manhattan, it's easy to get both uptown and downtown from there.
Here's a link to Yelp's NY Hotels in the $$ price range. You can adjust as you like, and there are reviews and all. This site is also good for restuarant recs, although Chowhound.com is much better.
http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=motels&ns=1&rpp=10&find_loc=New+York%2C+NY#mapCenterLat:40.789716531/mapCenterLng:-73.9640808105/mapZoom:10/attrs:RestaurantsPriceRange2.2/places:NY%3ANew_York%3AManhattan%3A!%5BHarlem%5D/sortby:composite/show_more_search_options:true
As far as places to see, I am a huge fan of downtown. LES is gentrified, but it's still retained much of its rugged charm. West Village, East Village, SoHo, Nolita, Chelsea, etc. Little Italy is gone and crap at this point, but again, check out Chowhound.com under the NY board for specific food recs. The best Italian food is NOT in Little Italy.
If you can get around on the subway or on foot you will save a ton of money! MTA should have a map online and if you have phone #s of resturants etc., you can call and find out which subway lines to take there. Once you get downtown the grid system fades a bit, so it's harder to navigate, but you can ask the MTA people as well and hope they don't just pop their gum in your face and roll their eyes.
Have fun!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
Brooklyn's not for the faint of heart? Haha....
But according to you, it's overrun by tourists....
Stop being an azz. Brooklyn is a lovely place to go, if you haven't been watching too much Law and Order and aren't afraid of black people. If you're someone who expects every black man under the age of thirty to try to rob you at gunpoint, then no, you probably would not enjoy yourself there. I lived there as a young single woman for five years in what others considered to be quite "dodgy" neighborhoods, and was never harassed one single time, although I wandered around all over the place at all hours of the night alone. If you get lost, you can always stop in a bodega and ask for directions -- people are almost always more than willing to help you out.
And I'm sure the OP is well traveled enough to take a neighborhood name and google and sort out how he would get to/if he would like to go to that neighborhood or not.
|
hmm, can only wonder how some people define class - you, obviously, don't have any. not only that, but it's abundantly clear you are trying really hard to be pretentious but - guess what - you are failing at it miserably.
by "not for the faint of heart" I was referring to how easy it is to get lost in Brooklyn, particularly the Heights area - and since so much closes after dark, well, it's that much harder to find one's way around. Some subway stations don't have toll booth clerks so they can't help and (as the posts on here show in such an obvious way to former Manhattanites like myself) it's not unusual to ask someone how to get somewhere and they don't actually know the trains. In fact, something I learned all too well was most New Yorkers give terrible directions. Possibly because of the subways and the buildings, who knows. another story altogether.
Brooklyn is not in an easy grid system like Manhattan is. Manhattan is divided up into an E and W side, uptown, downtown, midtown - tho it takes some time to get used to that even.
so OP, if Brooklyn is not on your agenda, or if you want to add the items I mentioned, do so, just be careful - Brooklyn is a huge place and it is very easy to get lost - not only that - but you can walk around a corner and right into very busy streets - there is so much traffic there!! and bad air as well. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages? |
And that as well. The LES, from what I understand, stopped being an artists' slum five years before I even got there.... |
do you even know where the Lower East Side is? I don't believe you've ever even been there - and why on earth would you call it an artists' slum?
the only kind of people who would make such asinine statements are more suburbanite retreads attempting to be pretentious - oops - but I repeat myself! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| MikeGrey wrote: |
Now this is where you really go off the deep end. Two other people have corrected you in your gross generalization. |
no one has corrected anything, nitwit, because I didn't make any errors - unlike the miserable attempt you've also made at trying to be pretentious and, like your brethren, have failed miserably at it.
give it up already - you tried nyc, you failed. you left in a pitiful state. you lied to everyone about the fun you were having. you thought it would be better than it was. you couldn't find work, or you sucked at it.
now you want to get on here and try and pretend, yet again, that you know something about a city I called home for nearly 20 years - long enough to still be called a New Yorker.
| Quote: |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages?
Actually the last I heard the Met was thinking, or already has, started to charge people. Sucks
If he'd been to manhattan in the past few years he would know that everything has been gentrified, and manhattan is full of nothing but "yuppies" whatever yuppies are supposed to mean nowadays.
Little Italy is a block long now. Chinatown is slowly disintegrating.
Oy. When was the last time you think this guy was in New York? The 1980's after watching the movie Wall Street? |
funny, New Yorkers refer to the Metropolitan Opera as "the Met" so when I read this I'm like wtf?? oh, yeah, some peple also refer to some of the local museums such as the Metropolitan Museum as "the Met" - uh huh - hey - they've ALWAYS charged - and prices vary according to season and politicians and everything else. If one lives there and enjoys the luxuries, then one coughs up the dough - or stays away - simple enough.
as for Little Italy - it started shrinking when Gotti was put away - that was probably before your time - huh? I never hung out there - so what's your point?
Chinatown disintegrating? what is that supposed to be - a news report? again - what's your point?
and the "everything is gentrified" has been going on for, let's see now, maybe forever? since ny was founded?
here's an item for you - ny nabes change all the time - it's what makes ny ny -
as for Manhattan being so expensive - no, it's not totally. one just has to know one's way around is all. where to shop (NOT soho - that's for sure) where the cheap films are (NOT the angelika, that's for sure) where to eat (ok, well, some street vendors are good if you know which ones) but there are also some great meals to be had for the cheap - the locals know but we only tell people we LIKE!!
so MikeGrey - if anyone went off the deep end - it was you - perhaps after you saw Wall Street you thought - hey I can do that - and YOU are the one that went after the green stuff, huh? so what happened? wasn't so easy, huh? couldn't score a lady either I bet. yeah, chumps like you are dime a dozen down on Nassau Street, poking around looking for some change. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| pkang0202 wrote: |
My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
I lived in Manhattan for 2 1/2 years.
I think Newark is a HORRIBLE place to visit NYC from. Why not stay right in Manhattan. There are quite a few hostels all over the city, and if you only have two nights, just splurge and stay in Manhattan.
Places to visit...the entire city is great for walking around at ANYTIME...one of the safest cities in the United States, by far. I like EVERYTHING between 14th Street...EAST VILLAGE and UNION SQUARE being my favorites, as well as SoHo, Greenwich Village, and way down by the South Street Seaport and down by Wall Street and the Statue of Liberty area. Walking over the Brooklyn Bridge is a must as well, and great views from that side as well.
Of course, Central Park and Times Square are a must that should be added in as well.
If I were you, I'd just stay in a hostel...all you need is a bed to sleep in in NYC, you won't want to spend anytime in a hotel anyways. You'll want to be in Manhattan every one of those 48 hours that you have. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
|
|
| moosehead wrote: |
| MikeGrey wrote: |
Now this is where you really go off the deep end. Two other people have corrected you in your gross generalization. |
no one has corrected anything, nitwit, because I didn't make any errors - unlike the miserable attempt you've also made at trying to be pretentious and, like your brethren, have failed miserably at it.
give it up already - you tried nyc, you failed. you left in a pitiful state. you lied to everyone about the fun you were having. you thought it would be better than it was. you couldn't find work, or you sucked at it.
now you want to get on here and try and pretend, yet again, that you know something about a city I called home for nearly 20 years - long enough to still be called a New Yorker.
| Quote: |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages?
Actually the last I heard the Met was thinking, or already has, started to charge people. Sucks
If he'd been to manhattan in the past few years he would know that everything has been gentrified, and manhattan is full of nothing but "yuppies" whatever yuppies are supposed to mean nowadays.
Little Italy is a block long now. Chinatown is slowly disintegrating.
Oy. When was the last time you think this guy was in New York? The 1980's after watching the movie Wall Street? |
funny, New Yorkers refer to the Metropolitan Opera as "the Met" so when I read this I'm like wtf?? oh, yeah, some peple also refer to some of the local museums such as the Metropolitan Museum as "the Met" - uh huh - hey - they've ALWAYS charged - and prices vary according to season and politicians and everything else. If one lives there and enjoys the luxuries, then one coughs up the dough - or stays away - simple enough.
as for Little Italy - it started shrinking when Gotti was put away - that was probably before your time - huh? I never hung out there - so what's your point?
Chinatown disintegrating? what is that supposed to be - a news report? again - what's your point?
and the "everything is gentrified" has been going on for, let's see now, maybe forever? since ny was founded?
here's an item for you - ny nabes change all the time - it's what makes ny ny -
as for Manhattan being so expensive - no, it's not totally. one just has to know one's way around is all. where to shop (NOT soho - that's for sure) where the cheap films are (NOT the angelika, that's for sure) where to eat (ok, well, some street vendors are good if you know which ones) but there are also some great meals to be had for the cheap - the locals know but we only tell people we LIKE!!
so MikeGrey - if anyone went off the deep end - it was you - perhaps after you saw Wall Street you thought - hey I can do that - and YOU are the one that went after the green stuff, huh? so what happened? wasn't so easy, huh? couldn't score a lady either I bet. yeah, chumps like you are dime a dozen down on Nassau Street, poking around looking for some change. |
What are your views on congestion pricing? You are a very smart man and I would like to know what you think about such issues that are pressing New Yorkers. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
