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Lukychrm42
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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I think a basic textbook definition would be along the lines of anyone willing to work hard enough can succeed.... but success means many different things...
If people come to America because they want to make money, then there's that success, but others might come for freedom (yes, it does happen) and be able to live their lives on their terms.
My director regularly says to me, "You are too much unique."
Even in America, people sometimes think I'm something of a 'free spirit,' (if you'll forgive the hippy-dippy associations), but here his statement connotes displeasure at my lack of conformity. Well, I wasn't brought up to be "a good, hardworking Korean who thinks like everybody else and doesn't upset the status quo," but to be myself with a character including certain values (like hardworking, good citizen, etc.) To me, freedom to be who I am/ want to be is definitely part of the American Dream deal.
Just my cheesy 2 cents. |
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madhusudan
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| My American Dream is a decent amount of land paid in cash with a fence around the entire thing. Don't enter it. On that land I will do exeactly as I please. I hope to get off the grid and provide for most of my needs myself. Because people today don't trust others, maybe some Eurofag thinks I shouldn't have the right, but thank the gods I do. |
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newton kabiddles
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Rock n Roll star. |
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Pooty
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Location: Ela stin agalia mou
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| newton kabiddles wrote: |
| Rock n Roll star. |
There ya go boss  |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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The American Dream is America's noble lie.
Its how individuals being individuals can yet form a society: for the American dream is about the individual and yet about our commonality in a shared society all at once.
If anything endangers the American dream, it will be the continued fracturing of our society. The American dream is not about walling off your own kingdom apart from your neighbors, and if the American dream is endangered, its because too many Americans mistake the American dream as being just that. |
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The evil penguin

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I can't remember.... why are americans despised so much in many developing (and developed) countries around the world??
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Knowing that we can kick ass to those backwards heathens living on the other side of the world. |
ahhh yes.... I remember now...... |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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toowise
Joined: 27 Nov 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: hmm |
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antgonz
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| "They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." --George Carlin |
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FixedGearJerk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: |
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American Dream = Being able to drink a beer in a park without getting a $200 fine. . .
Still bitter over that one. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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doesn't it mean,
a family 2 cars in the drive way, a mansion, couple million dollars in the bank! and early retirement.. |
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McLovin
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Location: Taiwan (Korea wannabe)
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: My American Dream is... |
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My American Dream (I'm from the States) is to live in Asia the rest of my life, married to gorgeous Asian lady.  |
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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Lukychrm42 wrote: |
I think a basic textbook definition would be along the lines of anyone willing to work hard enough can succeed.... but success means many different things...
If people come to America because they want to make money, then there's that success, but others might come for freedom (yes, it does happen) and be able to live their lives on their terms. |
Wow, how refreshing to read something other than "nice house, plenty of money, vacations, etc." It seems like Madison Ave. has more than done it's job in selling this idea.
I have actually heard the idea about anyone willing to work hard enough can succeed from a Vietnamese immigrant I knew whose family came to the states after the war. His parents were able to work hard and succeed. Him and his siblings all are college educated and he has his own martial arts school and is very wealthy. He explained to me the reason he loved America so much is that anyone can do well if they work their butt off. I think this is where so many fall off the wagon. There's hardly an easy way to 'work ones butt off' LOL. But those who do are usually the ones who are successful. It's just so much easier to come here and speak your language to kids and say the American Dream doesn't exist anymore.  |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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When I dream of Mena Suvari from American Beauty and then have to change my shorts when I wake up.
Next time, I'll tell you about my Swedish dream  |
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browneyedgirl

Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Americans - what does "American dream" mean to |
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| Not having your life decided for you by someone else. Being able to fail or succeed based on your own actions. |
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