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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just helped a co-worker buy a new Vista computer, and straight out of the gate, we had issues. First off, before updates, it sucked absolute poop. Horrible, stodgy, slow. It came with SP1. We ran into problems trying to do updates. It got stuck in a cycle where it would not update. It might have fished itself out of this, but was hard to tell because I had to get home.

Installing programs takes FOREVER and a day compared to XP.

The updates that did take sped up the boot time a bit, but before that, the boot time was like four minutes. This is on a Dual-core Pentium 2.16ghz notebook. 3 gigs of ram.

I guess I expected a bit more polish after all of this time.

I told her I'd take a look at it after the holiday, and see if it managed to sort out the update issues by itself.

By the way, we purchased Kaspersky Antivirus for her, and it was quite a bit cheaper to buy a legal boxed version from I-Park for about 35,000 won. That is a 2-year license. Pretty good AV for her, seeing as I could set it up for her and it will pretty much run itself with few issues.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ppcg4 wrote:
The new taskbar is a godsend revision from the old way of doing things. Having one application icon and all the windows bundled to that icon, instead of taking up space on the taskbar for every window was a brilliant move.


I hate that aspect. Too slow. There is too long of a pause between when you hover over the "E" and when the list shows up. I'd rather have the pages in front of me along the bottom row. Maybe it can be modified -- I didn't get into it that much.
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chickenpie



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VISAT was a joke. XP is still the best OS.

Windows 7 can only be better.

I hope. Shocked
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chickenpie



Joined: 24 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
ppcg4 wrote:
The new taskbar is a godsend revision from the old way of doing things. Having one application icon and all the windows bundled to that icon, instead of taking up space on the taskbar for every window was a brilliant move.


I hate that aspect. Too slow. There is too long of a pause between when you hover over the "E" and when the list shows up. I'd rather have the pages in front of me along the bottom row. Maybe it can be modified -- I didn't get into it that much.


Were did you get the quote from ppcg4 from?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenpie wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
ppcg4 wrote:
The new taskbar is a godsend revision from the old way of doing things. Having one application icon and all the windows bundled to that icon, instead of taking up space on the taskbar for every window was a brilliant move.


I hate that aspect. Too slow. There is too long of a pause between when you hover over the "E" and when the list shows up. I'd rather have the pages in front of me along the bottom row. Maybe it can be modified -- I didn't get into it that much.


Were did you get the quote from ppcg4 from?


Part of the last post on page 1.
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Just helped a co-worker buy a new Vista computer, and straight out of the gate, we had issues. First off, before updates, it sucked absolute poop. Horrible, stodgy, slow. It came with SP1. We ran into problems trying to do updates. It got stuck in a cycle where it would not update. It might have fished itself out of this, but was hard to tell because I had to get home.

Installing programs takes FOREVER and a day compared to XP.


If you bought it from a store, then there is a high probability that it came with lots of unnecessary software configured to load at startup. If you want to make it faster, download autoruns (search for it on Google) and disable some programs from loading at boot. This will probably improve performance quite a lot.

If you want to go deeper, disable some services (by running services.msc from the "Run" command or the command prompt) that can slow the computer, such as superfectfetch, indexing, readyboost, server, and others. Here is a helpful guide describing which services are (un)necessary:

http://www.speedyvista.com/services.php
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenpie wrote:
VISAT was a joke. XP is still the best OS.

Windows 7 can only be better.

I hope. Shocked


Read this comparison of XP SP3 vs. Vista SP1 vs. Windows 7 beta 1:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He didn't do any graphics testing. That's one of the major areas where Vista loses as much as 10 to 25 percent compared to XP.

Shame.
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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's bollocks W7

Tested it out for a day at the weekend. System Thinkpad Core 2 Duo 1.6 2GB ram.

It was like using an operating system that was stuck in a thick viscous fluid.

Hated it.

Tool bar was ok, very much like my SuSE setup.

Interesting to see how little progression has been made overall.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Windows 7 seems to have controls over H264 and what you agree to use/play on the system. Anyone else notice that?

Seems like more protection for the movie industry to me.
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keetrainchild



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
He didn't do any graphics testing. That's one of the major areas where Vista loses as much as 10 to 25 percent compared to XP.

Shame.


That used to be true in 2007 and maybe part of 2008, but now that the drivers are much improved, and Vista has SP1, the tale is entirely different. While it's true that frame rates in DX10 are usually lower than those in DX9 (of course), there is no longer so much of a gap. In fact, in some cases game performance is even better in Vista.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just cannot get the microsoft downloader to workl;really want to try it.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got my hands on Vista x64 SP2.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
I just got my hands on Vista x64 SP2.


Thinking of going with that on my new computer. Is it faster?
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's still beta I believe. Think I'll hold off till windows installs it automatically.
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