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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not bragging, ive just been screwed over alot....no one is going to screw me over, but thanks for trying to be an jerk.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't trying to be that osang...just clearing something up..

The times you were "screwed over" did you at least once give notice and quit or did you run everythime?

I am just curious the chances that one person being "screwed over" so many times are quite remote and sometimes people run because they just don't like their jobs...
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran with 4 other teacher, we all walked out the same afternoon, my director of that job was a drunk , he got in a fight with the male teacher, hit him, smashed a window, and then attempted to spit on all of us.

The other time i gave a months.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how exactly were you screwed over?
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aside from the daily craziness of smashing windows and spitting on us, he never paid on time, made us work over time, and pimped us out to peoples apartments!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pimped you?

Ya gotta love these expressions that try and convey bad experiences.. Laughing

You should have used "enslaved us"...or "sold us into hard labor"...that would have been more evocative... Laughing
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would "risked getting my ass bounced out of Korea so he could make some extra cash by making me teach illegally in other people's apartments" be a fairer assessment of her situation?

That boss deserved what he got, I can't imagine why you're defending him.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son deuro..

Where exactly did I defend her drunk boss??? Laughing

I did not. I was just having a bit of fun with the expressions used.
From what she said, her boss did sound like a nightmare.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since you appear to have poor English skills which leads me to believe you are not a native speaker, If I were you I would count my lucky stars for having an English teaching job at all.

This sounded a bit odd so I went back and read the op again twice. I found only two mistakes, one that could clearly be seen as a typo because she wrote exactly the same thing a bit later and it was correct. She's a native speaker.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
I was just having a bit of fun with the expressions used.
From what she said, her boss did sound like a nightmare.


Fair enough, it sounded at first like you were making light of her situation.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making light of it...hmmm...not really but then again we only have her word for it don't we... Laughing
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here Homer. My personal experiences and those of many of my friends have been bad enough that Osangrl's experiences are believable enough for me.

You've been here a while, I'd be surprised to hear that they aren't for you as well.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most certainly as stated by another poster, fire off the question to your boss regarding the dual work locations. You can work at more than one location, but it must be clearly stated on your visa. The pay situation is not a healthy one to let continue. If he is unwilling to assist, then gauge his mood, if you think resigning would be benificial then do so, but if that could cause you any great amount of grief, then take your pay and bid him a fond farewell.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar situation which lasted (because I'm a sucker for punishment) 7 long months.

My boss kept paying me late, deducting mysterious amounts from my wages, and I really had no recourse for many reasons.

My girlfriend at the time insisted I stick it out and wait. That is what a Korean would do damnit so you should too. Rolling Eyes And I did, mostly out of blind (read: pitch black Stevie Wonder blindess) love for my girlfriend.

The straw that broke the camel's back was demanding I saw my phone bill, which was 120,000 won more than it should have been.

He had been taking my money for my phone bill, not paying the bill on time, then getting a new bill which included the previous month's bill tacked on.

So I was ending up paying TWICE every month for my phone bill.

I called him on it, and things were never the same after that.

I gave my boss an ultimatum: pay my full amount, INCLUDING all back wages, or don't expect me come Monday.

Monday came, and I was over the Pacific Ocean sipping on Mott's Clamato and looking at the ocean through my little window.

Take my advice: Run forrest, run!
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My girlfriend at the time insisted I stick it out and wait. That is what a Korean would do damnit so you should too. And I did, mostly out of blind (read: pitch black Stevie Wonder blindess) love for my girlfriend.


GWOW - I'm very sorry to hear about your situation.

I have gotten similar advice from my (Korean) girlfriend when I've had problems with my bosses here.

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" only goes so far. Since we do not have the same protection and support network that Koreans due here (i.e. we can't just quit, and we can't always trust the law to take our side) we cannot afford to always act like Koreans do.

It sounds like your work situation (at least in part) came between you and your girlfriend. I'm sorry to hear that things ended as badly as they did for you. I've had similar problems, aggravated by the fact that the Korean teacher at my school is my girlfriend's sister. Lucky for me, I've been able to convince my girlfriend to let me handle things my own way, while I do listen to her advice. But I think it really is just luck.

Good luck to you GWOW, I'm sorry to hear about your situation.
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