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| Where do you stand on the political spectrum? |
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10% |
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| left |
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14% |
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| centre-left |
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21% |
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| centre |
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14% |
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| centre-right |
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14% |
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| right |
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10% |
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| far right |
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12% |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: |
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conservative: ecomony, law and order, welfare
liberal/left: immigration, education, health, civil liberties
everythng else middle of the road. |
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Biblethumper

Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Location: Busan, Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| For obvious reasons I am about as far to the right of the spectrum as any man can get. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:11 am Post subject: |
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I identify myself as a Left Wing conservative and voted Center-Right, which means I take a Left Wing view on......
abortion (support it)
religion (hate it)
climate change (believe man is causing it)
gay rights (support them)
war on drugs (hate it)
So what's there to be Right Wing about?
Israel (support it)
Iraq War (for it back in 2003)
nationalism (like it)
hippies (can't fucking stand them)
welfare state (support it)
Islamic terror (take it very seriously)
not particularly tolerant
believe in capital punishment for heinous crimes
hawkish (like it) |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| sarbonn wrote: |
| Left-right only works if you're an American |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Justin Hale wrote:
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So what's there to be Right Wing about?
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welfare state (support it)
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. Supporting the welfare-state is almost always regarded as a left-leaning position(even though of course some conservatives have come to support it in one form or another). |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed - supporting the welfare state is definitely not right wing. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mistake. that should've gone under Left |
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zeldalee13

Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. The spread is much more balanced than I expected... But there are also only 33 respondents at this time  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'll copy Hale's format:
Abortion - pro
Gay marriage - pro (adoption too)
Climate change - undecided, but not at all worried
Religion - more hostile with every passing day. End tax-free status of religious 'companies'.
War on drugs - strongly against (100% legalization)
Israel - indifferent
Iraq war - against then and now
Afghanistan war - against then and now (though not so strongly 'then')
Nationalism - don't know. I don't feel any nationalistic pride in Canada. Can't really say.
Welfare state - universal, single payer medical system with private delivery is likely best, IMO. Public pensions need serious reform.
Terrorism - a police/criminal issue
Capital punishment - against, maybe.
Economics - free market etc. Abolish the fed and replace it with a computer. Treat banks like utilities. Dramatically increase punishments of white collar crime.
Trade - reciprocity. Sorry, ROK.
War - only in clear self defense, and then go hard or go home.
Western Civilization - clearly superior and to be defended. Cultural relativism is a cancer.
Multiculturalism - absolute garbage
Immigration - Absolutely 100% against all muslim immigration..even refugees. Citizenship granted after a decade of crime free, productive living. No dual citizenship. Shit or get off the pot.
Civil liberties - fundamentalist. |
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Beeyee

Joined: 29 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I would identify myself as a right-leaning Libertarian but like others have mentioned, it really depends on the issue. |
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lisac1983
Joined: 14 Dec 2008 Location: sydney, australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
Western Civilization - clearly superior and to be defended. Cultural relativism is a cancer.
Multiculturalism - absolute garbage
Immigration - Absolutely 100% against all muslim immigration..even refugees. Citizenship granted after a decade of crime free, productive living. No dual citizenship. Shit or get off the pot. |
Please tell me you are joking |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| lisac1983 wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
Western Civilization - clearly superior and to be defended. Cultural relativism is a cancer.
Multiculturalism - absolute garbage
Immigration - Absolutely 100% against all muslim immigration..even refugees. Citizenship granted after a decade of crime free, productive living. No dual citizenship. Shit or get off the pot. |
Please tell me you are joking |
Oh dude, of course! Clearly, cultures are all equal and Canada will still be Canada if you dumped Algeria in it. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| lisac1983 wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
Western Civilization - clearly superior and to be defended. Cultural relativism is a cancer.
Multiculturalism - absolute garbage
Immigration - Absolutely 100% against all muslim immigration..even refugees. Citizenship granted after a decade of crime free, productive living. No dual citizenship. Shit or get off the pot. |
Please tell me you are joking |
Oh dude, of course! Clearly, cultures are all equal and Canada will still be Canada if you dumped Algeria in it. |
I don't think any culture is superior, in a metaphycial sense, to any other. I do think that, given the already existing preferences of a particular culture, certain foreign cultures will integrate with that culture better than others will.
Koreans value soju, don't like weed. Is this rational? I don't know. But I do know that most Koreans probably feel comfortable with that set of preferences, and hence reserve unto themselves the right to expel any foreigner who so much as sparks up a roach. Obviously, things are different in Amsterdam. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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I checked center-left but it depends on the issue:
Law and order: I support longer prison sentences for rape, pedophilia, murder etc. Minimum 10 years apart from some exceptional cases and life in the worst cases. Also prisoners should be made to do useful work during their incarceration. Marijuana should be decriminalized and white-collar crimes should be prosecuted more and the perpetrators given tougher sentences.
Taxes: Taxes should take into consideration social/environmental factors. Petrol should be taxed very highly for casual drivers to reflect its environmental impact and the national security issues of having to import it but discounts could be given for those who need to use it for work.
So many people use cars unnecessarily. To compensate for higher taxes on petrol, income taxes could be cut in compensation. In fact income should be taxed as low as possible. Loopholes that allow the ultra-rich to avoid paying taxes should be closed. Huge rebates should be given for the use of renewable energies like solar and wind.
Abortion/ gay rights: Far too much importance is given to these issues. For abortion choice is necessary, not because abortions are desirable but because alternatives are worse. More should be done to promote birth control in poor countries. Gays should be allowed the same marriage rights as everyone else of course.
Social welfare: healthcare should be free and universal. It's not perfect but it works well enough and it's better than health insurance companies fleecing everybody. Child support should have some sort of limitation to discourage those with no intention of working to keep breeding children they can't afford the upkeep of. People who are on unemployment benefits long term should be made to do useful work for them. The retirement age will probably need to be raised to 70 in most western countries to compensate for aging populations.
Economy: Banking has to be simplified. Unethical banks should be given no support and allowed to fail. Banks that are ethical in their practices should be supported as much as possible. Strict limits on capital requirements should be maintained. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| IChild support should have some sort of limitation to discourage those with no intention of working to keep breeding children they can't afford the upkeep of. |
I disagree. Most single mothers don't start out as single mothers. For one thing, this kind of thinking punishes innocent women fleeing abusive husbands. It also punishes kids who had no say in what circumstances they find themselves. |
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