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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| The King of Kwangju wrote: |
| Mark my words, the day will come when you will rejoice to find a city with over a million people and no McDonald's or Dallas burger. |
So you are incapable of ignoring the things that irrtate you?
I presume you have never accused any fellow ESL teacher of being a whiner  |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 11 000 won for a BURGER? Thats freaking insane. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| tokki wrote: |
| 11 000 won for a BURGER? Thats freaking insane. |
I absent-mindedly forgot about that small detail. 
But then, we don't have Dallas Burger in my city.
At that price, I would expect it to be at least as good as Johnny Rockets. |
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Down from Above
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
Location: Naju
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| tokki wrote: |
| 11 000 won for a BURGER? Thats freaking insane. |
In Seoul. But 7700 in Gwangju. I'm happy to pay it - my friend and I can go, use free coupons for buffalo wings, and buy two meals + draft for 20,000w or less. Anyway, the point isn't (just) the price. It's that something that many in the local foreign community wanted available (as katydid verifies) now is. |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| TGIF is insanely expensive. Outback is cheaper, but their menu is really restricted. I was in France this autumn and I had awsome steak. Steak at Outback is not really that good. Its too thick. TGIF has a better menu but the stuff there is expensive. Without coupons its too much to go eat there too often. Anyway, 11 grand for a burger is insane, 7700 is better but still. Its a BURGER. For the total price of a meal at TGIF which will cost you over to 40 000w for two people, Id rather go have a galbi feast. |
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Scott in HK
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: now in Incheon..haven't changed my name yet
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| This is sort of off topic or at least out of country.....but burgers in HK cost about $20 Canadian.....at least they did until.....and this is only for BC people....a White Spot opened up....now we get better burgers and they are half the price....anyone coming to HK and wants a White Spot burger...you can find them in the Great supermarket in the basement of the Pacific Place shopping centre in Admiralty.....just thought I would pass it along.... |
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Down from Above
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
Location: Naju
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| For the total price of a meal at TGIF which will cost you over to 40 000w for two people |
No, you misread my post. Under 20,000w for two people. That puts it in line with the kailbi feast. And make no mistake, I like those too. I'm one of the biggest fans of Korean food you'll find. But not every day for three years, thanks. I don't have a lot of time for the "you should never eat western food in Korea" crowd.
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| Without coupons its too much to go eat there too often. |
Coupons certainly help. And he's promising to load you down with coupons if you go. |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| For the total price of a meal at TGIF which will cost you over to 40 000w for two people |
No, you misread my post. Under 20,000w for two people. That puts it in line with the kailbi feast. And make no mistake, I like those too. I'm one of the biggest fans of Korean food you'll find. But not every day for three years, thanks. I don't have a lot of time for the "you should never eat western food in Korea" crowd.
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| Without coupons its too much to go eat there too often. |
Coupons certainly help. And he's promising to load you down with coupons if you go. |
I went there once, and I dont see how you can pay 20 thousand for 2 people. I mean ONE steak and jacket potato runs over 20 thousand. Then you get some beer, and whatever and that is already over 40 grand.
The good thing is that since I have come here I havent craved meat so much, and I eat little meat each day. Sometimes I get a craving, so I go to Outback or TGIF, but only two or 3 times a year. Its enough. |
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justagirl
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Goodness, people! It's not that much more expensive than home. At home a hamburger at Outback or TGIF or Chili's will cost $7-9 (American). That's a good price for a meal at a nice sit-down restaurant. You can't begin to compare this to McDoo's or BK.
We just found out a TGIF is opening in Cheonan this winter. It's the first Western restaurant that's not fast food (which I refuse to eat). I'm GLAD! Katydid, you're right. Sometimes a nice, big, thick, juicy hamburger is SO nice to have.
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good to hear.... the bar at TGI's is always dead in Gwangju, (only been three times, but haven't seen one person at the bar) and the clear reason is that there is no bar food, like burgers or sandwiches on order for good bar stool eating (be warned, there is joke in there).
Next time I go I will order up a burger, but with very little patronage of the burger do you think they will be fresh?
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Down from Above
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
Location: Naju
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Next I go I will order up a burger, but with very little patronage of the burger do you think they will be fresh? |
Yes. They're using the burgers in the mexican bbq tacos they've just added to the menu.
They've also added real chicken caesar salads - not those horrible mayonnaise-glazed fruit things some Korean restaurants call caesars. The menu's undergone a major improvement. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| Has anybody in Gwangju had the burger yet? How was it? Have any kind of reveiw..... ? |
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tsgarp
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Mark my words, the day will come when you will rejoice to find a city with over a million people and no McDonald's or Dallas burger. |
It's called Pyongyang, KoK. Not much rejoicing going on.
What a bizarre post, arguing for fewer choices, not more. |
TGIF is not about more choices, it's about fewer choices. It's about the homogenization of our palates. It's about using the same 5 ingredients deep-fried or grilled in varying but inevitably bland ways. It's about corporate image and crappy food. I really can't tell a difference between a TGIF, Bennigan's, Appleby's or Outback except to say that the food at Outback is even worse than the aforementioned choices.
Back home I ate at Hector's Pizza, Athena Taverna, Millie and Al's, Yao Shey Yuen, and the Shilla Garden. I didn't eat at Pizza Hut, the Olive Garden, Western Sizzler, China Panda, or Hardees. In other words, I didn't eat crappy food there and I'll hardly celebrate the coming of crappy food here.
It's your choice, go load up at your fat barns but I will still insist the food is bad, the prices are overly bloated (not unlike most of the patrons), and I'd just as soon rather they didn't come.
I find places like the quaint little gyro place near Ewha to be infinitely more interesting. That's where diversity comes from. TGIF and all of its knock-offs will ensure a culinary diversion for now but ultimately will mean less diversity in the future as they dominate the "western" food market.
As for hamburger, good god, it's not like making chateau briand. Get some meat (Friday's isn't very good quality at that), preferably ground chuck, and do it yourself. Good advice from one of New York's top chefs, don't overhandle the meat or you'll bruise it. That's sound advice anyway you look at it.
That being said, I'll end with the disclaimer that not all franchises are bad. I have been to a couple that were pretty good, the place in COEX (forget the name but it's a buffet/deli) was good and offered a lot of variety. Fuddrucker's in America is a decent diversion but then again where else can I get an ostrich burger? And not all Mom & Pop places are good. There's an Italian couple here in Pusan that opened a place that absolutely sucks. I got two words for them GARLIC and OREGANO. Their food is so bland it attracts all the Texans from the Panhandle, you know people raised on beef and corn who believe salt is a spice and black pepper is just to keep the salt shaker from looking lonely on the table. |
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Down from Above
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
Location: Naju
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Yes Tsarp, to sum up: you don't like TGIF and all it represents. Super. Got it. You far prefer a "little gyro place" near Ewha. Super again - does those of us who live 300km away a lot of good.
Anyway, I don't see what relevance your personal culinary preferences are to those of us in this thread who have lived in Gwangju for many years and just want to order a damn hamburger at TGIF's.
Weatherman - to answer your question, yes, I got the burger last week during the holiday. It was excellent. At first, the server didn't know what I was talking about, but the manager clued her in and all was well.
I even took a picture of it just to prove it was possible, and I'd post it here now but I'm afraid it'd agitate further those who want to dictate what others should eat. |
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tsgarp
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Hey, I'm not telling what to eat. If you want to be a corporate shill and eat crap, that's great. If you don't like my post, ignore it. You come on a message board and crow about some cruddy place because you're to slow to figure out how to make a burger and I can't comment on it? Enjoy the Fat Barn with all the other bloated customers. I tell you there's an Ajumma in Pusan who sells a burger called the Heart Attack by the local teachers here and she kicks Friday's ass. Oops, she's 200 miles away from you. There I go again, not being helpful. |
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