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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| rush: Just curious-what country is "home"? |
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rush
Joined: 17 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Home is Australia...
rethought the IT planwill give it a miss, funnily enough I had an interview with
a real estate agency... as its one job that you can learn on the
job... but it involved cold calling on the phone and even door
knocking... ie do you want to sell your house?? I psyched myself
up to do it but the sales manager detected I wasnt keen on such
tasks and said I wasnt hungry enough.... feel like such a
deadbeat not doing anything and I know If I go back my parent
and family will think Im running away and that I couldnt make it
back home... the sad thing is Im feeling that way myself |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer,
How practical or usefull do you think that graduate program in international education exchange at school for international training you were accepted to last year is? I ask becasue I am considering the same exact program myself in couple of years (commute from home) and it seems like a VERY interesting field to become involved in from everything I have read about it so far for a number of reasons (mulitcultural environment, dealing with the international spectrum, varied job duties, possibility for overseas travel, greater stability than teaching english overseas)... |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| adventureman wrote: |
Tiger Beer,
How practical or usefull do you think that graduate program in international education exchange at school for international training you were accepted to last year is? I ask becasue I am considering the same exact program myself in couple of years (commute from home) and it seems like a VERY interesting field to become involved in from everything I have read about it so far for a number of reasons (mulitcultural environment, dealing with the international spectrum, varied job duties, possibility for overseas travel, greater stability than teaching english overseas)... |
I think it would be a great program. The downside is its $20,000 in tuition alone, then you have to add food and housing and general living expenses. The program itself would definetely set you up for a job though. Check out the www.sit.edu website.
I'm leaning in another direction at the moment. But I'm still accepted into that one for the next two years. So if I feel compelled, I might still go for it in the future. Definetely don't have the cash for it, but I could technically accumulate more debt. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Healthcare and nursing are hot right now. If you do absolutely anything in that field, you will be in demand. Or something along those lines.. like Radiological Technician or whatever else. They are giving all kinds of visas to get people from other countries into the US to do anything in the healthcare and particularly nursing fields.
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I was in the Australian embassy the other day and they had a list on the wall that detailed all the professions that were in high demand in Australia... (for those wanting to migrate to Oz under the skilled migration banner)... and radiologists were right up on the top of the list with several other healthcare industry related professions. I wish I could remember what they all were!
Edit: I remembered another one ~ chefs!
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IconsFanatic
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Back for two months and still can't find a job |
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| Gladiator wrote: |
| especially if the Hong Kong 'satellite family' immigration boom is still as radical as it was back then |
That dried up around 1999 (at the latest).
Mostly South and Western Asians making the trip there these days... |
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Miles
Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: In limbo
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| rush wrote: |
.... feel like such a
deadbeat not doing anything and I know If I go back my parent
and family will think Im running away and that I couldnt make it
back home... the sad thing is Im feeling that way myself |
Join the club, you're not alone. It's hard not to feel that way and it's not a pleasant feeling. You said yourself that it was very depressing and I know what you mean. You might want to start by taking those negative feelings out of the equation before the confidence you mentioned earlier is eroded and you run the risk of convincing yourself, or even suspecting that you are becoming one of those so-called "EFL losers" that people like to talk about on this board.
T. Beer had some sound advice about having a plan of action. It sounds as if you don't have a really definite plan at the moment. You also said that you feel Japan or Korea calling. If that is the case, it might be an idea to go back to Asia for another year and figure things out there as T. Beer also suggested. It will take the pressure off. You will be earning money and have plenty of time to realistically weigh up your options and therefore be in a much more positive frame of mind to research any possible opportunities in the Australian job market and to focus on one or more viable plans of action taking into account whatever experience, talents, skills or interests you may have.
Just a suggestion, you could do worse. |
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rush
Joined: 17 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for that last post Miles... most appreciated |
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Miles
Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: In limbo
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| You're welcome. |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Start sending out those resumes 6 months before you are even considering heading back... and never stop sending them out. Post-grad I sent out about 300 resumes in one week... admittedly, it was in a field my father wanted me to pursue and not my chosen field of work, but it was still a plan. |
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Zenpickle
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:17 am Post subject: |
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My story...
2001: IT hot shot making $80k USD a year.
2004: Have gone over a year without a steady job in the IT field, even in Atlanta.
I have been helping produce a nationally-syndicated radio show, and in this endeavor, I've gotten to talk to a lot of distinguished economists (including Paul Krugman), and even though a recovery is on the way, they still say that the job market is not going to be back to normal levels for another year.
Which is why I'm going to Korea for a year. I'm sick of competing with engineers and Java programmers for jobs waiting tables at Chili's. |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ryleeys wrote: |
| Start sending out those resumes 6 months before you are even considering heading back... |
Are you joking? That's simply stupid advice.
Miles is right, rush: you need a plan. Even then it might not turn out like you want it to. Give yourself a year to find a job, and then reassess your situation at that time.
Coming back is hard, rush. And you ain't no loser, even if you have to go back to K. |
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Zenpickle
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, listen to the King.
In this economy, if you're making money, you are far from being a loser.
Oh damn, don't start getting all philosophical, Zen... |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, IT jobs now are basically non-existent. My friend lost her IT job almost three years ago and hasn't been able to get a new IT job since. After she lost the IT job, first she did restaurant cashiering for one month and after that, her boyfriend and his friend moved in with her and started paying her mortgage for her. Then, she did not work for over a year. Now she is cashiering in an outdoor equipment store. She has been doing this for almost two years. She still wants to find an IT job, but no luck so far. Oh, my friend was on;y making $1800 a month in IT and it was in Atlanta, too. Atlanta has no jobs now. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| rush wrote: |
.... it might be an idea to go back to Asia for another year and figure things out there as T. Beer also suggested. It will take the pressure off. You will be earning money and have plenty of time to realistically weigh up your options and therefore be in a much more positive frame of mind to research any possible opportunities in the Australian job market and to focus on one or more viable plans of action taking into account whatever experience, talents, skills or interests you may have.
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i wouldn't recommend going back to korea (unless he's broke and needs cash), but he mentioned he has already spent 5 years teaching in Asia (i should hope he has enough cash to carry him over for a few months). it's really hard to do much on the job front when you are in korea --- postage, time difference, etc. all makes the job search more difficult than it is from back home. besides, most good jobs require a face to face interview and why would they bother to wait for someone to fly in from korea when they can just interview someone locally or semi-locally. going back to korea will just prolongue the misery of getting re-adjusted to life in the West. |
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