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| do you believe in UFOs and/or life on other planets? |
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| no |
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| i'm an alien! |
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| God, as humans know It, is an Alien! |
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| i'd go anywhere, anytime, any place with your alien, handsome ass, boy next door... |
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| you're a neurotic psychopath that needs to be hospitalized, TBND! |
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| i once had sex with an alien and now my baby can read minds... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Didn't Will Smith, the President, and that drunken crop duster guy take care of the alien problem? |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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"I believe in life on other planets" doesn't necessarily have to be a belief. Someone else already mentioned it: there is a high probability. Moreover, there is a logically compelling reason why there should be life on other planets--there are a hell of a lot of them. If someone told you that the odds of there being not hundreds, or thousands, but millions upon millions of planets that likely share the same fate as the earth in terms of temperature and chemical composition, it would be a mighty confident person who could say with certainty that we are the special ones, the anointed godheads.
I think a more interesting question is this: If it could be proven at some distant point in the future that only the planet earth was blessed with life, what would that mean? |
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the boy next door
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: next door
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| our flight is not solo in outer space...yet, the aliens outside are the evil within... |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Perverted aliens coming over here and molesting our farmers. Why can't they get jobs on their own planets? |
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Biblethumper
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Location: Busan, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| God says that he created man and biological life on earth only. |
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Snake Doctor
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Biblethumper wrote: |
| God says that he created man and biological life on earth only. |
HAhahahahahaha! |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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Hmmm.. many yes votes. I don't know. No one does. Belief is empty. Very empty. How many minds are filled with belief? Most. Strange bunch, aren't we?
Is there an alternative perhaps to belief or doubt in things no one knows? I think there is. I call it 'leaving the whole damn thing alone.' We know so little really. Our beliefs are trivial. Let's leave it all alone. That's my plan anyway. And when anyone talks to me about such things, I just demur (is that the right word?) and leave it alone, because no one knows.
Sidestep it all I say.
I think most intelligent people don't bother with these things. We are curious, but we do not easily fall into traps. Do I believe? In what? Nope. No belief. Period.
Mistake: I believe there is another beer in my fridge.
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Later: I was right. There was another beer in my fridge.
Individually most of us are nothing, yet we are all we have. Let's not spend our days clouded with beliefs. They are silly. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| beercanman wrote: |
Hmmm.. many yes votes. I don't know. No one does. Belief is empty. Very empty. How many minds are filled with belief? Most. Strange bunch, aren't we?
Is there an alternative perhaps to belief or doubt in things no one knows? I think there is. I call it 'leaving the whole damn thing alone.' We know so little really. Our beliefs are trivial. Let's leave it all alone. That's my plan anyway. And when anyone talks to me about such things, I just demur (is that the right word?) and leave it alone, because no one knows.
Sidestep it all I say.
I think most intelligent people don't bother with these things. We are curious, but we do not easily fall into traps. Do I believe? In what? Nope. No belief. Period.
Mistake: I believe there is another beer in my fridge.
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Later: I was right. There was another beer in my fridge.
Individually most of us are nothing, yet we are all we have. Let's not spend our days clouded with beliefs. They are silly. |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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As more and more planets, galaxies, and solar systems are being discovered, we are finding out just how "unusual" our own solar system is. Earth and our solar system is an anomaly and not the norm.
Is there a solar system out there that is even remotely similar to ours? |
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jahson4
Joined: 17 Feb 2009
Location: Jamsil
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. It's hard to believe that our speck of a planet is the only home to life in our expansive universe.
D/L the documentary "Ancient Aliens" from The History channel. It's certainly interesting. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Pkang0202 wrote: |
| As more and more planets, galaxies, and solar systems are being discovered, we are finding out just how "unusual" our own solar system is. |
Of all the extrasolar planets we have discovered, so far none of them appear to be Earth-like. The gas giant type of planet - like Jupiter and Saturn - is probably by far the most common type of planet. But don't forget to include moons. Our Solar System has 8 planets and nearly 200 moons. No, none of them are Earth-like either, but some are near-misses.
| Pkang0202 wrote: |
| Earth and our solar system is an anomaly and not the norm. |
We only have a very small amount of evidence. It would be wholly erroneous to draw conclusions about the whole based on a tiny part. That would be like landing on a snowflake in Antarctica and concluding "nope, no life here" about Earth. Earth-like planets being the exception is almost certainly true. But, in space terms, an 'anomaly' means 'likely trillions' (as opposed to trillions of trillions of trillions).
Since it is totally impossible to see, let alone investigate, anything more than a microscopic fraction of the universe, we always must use probabibility in any discussion on this topic. Overwhelming probability is the best evidence we're ever gonna get.
If you want to wait for palpable evidence, that's sound practise, but one is compelled to accept the overwhelming likelihood that Earth is one of trillions, at least, of bodies containing technological, thinking creatures.
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Some of you guys need to understand what UFO means. It stands for unidentified flying object. So of course UFOs exist. Small helicopters flying in the sky could technically be UFOs until they are properly identified.
But yes, I do believe that there is life out there. But the chances of intelligent life visiting Earth are really really tiny. All those weird space ships we see on TV are probably inter-dimensional beings or time travellers from Earth's future. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Pkang0202 wrote: |
| As more and more planets, galaxies, and solar systems are being discovered, we are finding out just how "unusual" our own solar system is. |
Of all the extrasolar planets we have discovered, so far none of them appear to be Earth-like. The gas giant type of planet - like Jupiter and Saturn - is probably by far the most common type of planet. But don't forget to include moons. Our Solar System has 8 planets and nearly 200 moons. No, none of them are Earth-like either, but some are near-misses.
| Pkang0202 wrote: |
| Earth and our solar system is an anomaly and not the norm. |
We only have a very small amount of evidence. |
I agree that we DO only have a very small amount of evidence.
What I wanted to point out is that, currently, the more and more we find out about planets and solar system out in the universe, the more and more we are finding that Earth and our own solar system is unusual.
I think finding life on other planets is like finding a needle in a haystack the size of Jupiter. And with each new piece of information we find out, the haystack gets bigger and bigger. |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
I agree that we DO only have a very small amount of evidence.
What I wanted to point out is that, currently, the more and more we find out about planets and solar system out in the universe, the more and more we are finding that Earth and our own solar system is unusual.
I think finding life on other planets is like finding a needle in a haystack the size of Jupiter. And with each new piece of information we find out, the haystack gets bigger and bigger. |
Keep in mind that you do not necessarily need an exactly Earth-like planet to have life. There are possibilities for life in our solar system even. Take Enceladus (a moon of Saturn) for example, or Titan, or Europa. Not only could there be microbial life in our solar system, but there could theoretically be actual creatures that we just haven't found yet because we haven't sent probes into the oceans on Enceladus for example. Life has been found to exist in the most inhospitable environments imaginable here on Earth, it doesn't need a pristine Earth-like environment. |
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