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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
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| I have Korean Vista, and for a while couldn't figure out what 'shutdown' was in the Start menu, so I installed a little thing on the side bar that has shutdown/restart/standby etc. When you click on the shutdown button it will automatically shutdown the computer, usually very quickly, or sometimes it will take a little longer if i've been running Bittorrent or Limewire. It has never failed to shutdown my computer though. Maybe worth a try? |
This was great. I have been trying to resist saying exactly this, in jest, and here it is in sincerity. Simple things can be challenging for microsoft. |
Actually, computer users are typically morons. That's why Apple exists. |
I'm glad you can finally admit that Apple fills the niche above most users. |
However, lets not forget that they are marginal at best in the PC world; it speaks volumes that the idiots would rather fail before learning than turn to Mac.
Mac: Idiocy done poorly.
Minefield anyone? |
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: |
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I don't need it... but it IS hilarious listening to you defend your little button.
I know it's not easy to laugh at yourself. But believe me, it's not just Mac users who crack this one. I studied Industrial design and it was used as a textbook example.
The joke is really not that lame: logic and efficiency are cornerstones of good design. Microsoft had a team of Ph.Ds get it wrong, and the masses have not only gone along with it, but defend it and preserve it.
Then, Windows users say Mac users are mindless.
LOL!
Microsoft: Time to move on.
Windoze user: It's too hard!
Mac user: Here's an easier way.
Windoze user: Apple sucks! |
We can play games though. You can play about 5. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: |
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However, lets not forget that they are marginal at best in the PC world; it speaks volumes that the idiots would rather fail before learning than turn to Mac.
Mac: Idiocy done poorly.
Minefield anyone? |
Yes, again right on the ball, Demophobe. Idiots and Windows are meant for each other.
Mac certainly is not up to standards in that market.
Well said! |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| We can play games though. You can play about 5. |
Ah right, Windows and gamers... kinda fits in with what I've already said.
I find it odd that grown adults spend thousands of dollars on the latest gaming components so they can sit for hours in front of widescreen monitors shooting boogymen.
Not being judgmental, but I don't think I'm missing anything. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, again right on the ball, Demophobe. Idiots and Windows are meant for each other.
Mac certainly is not up to standards in that market.
Well said! |
Thanks. One day Mac may be bad enough even for idiots; until then, they are relegated to new-age fruitcakes like you.
Some wine with your game? |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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What I don't like is that Apple has singlehandedly created the 'snobby geek'..
Where computer-savvy and techy, gadget loving people used to be united in their geekyness, Apple has created a feud where really none should exist.
The bickering is kind of like unigwon teachers vs. hagwon teachers. They both do the same job, but the unigwon teacher walks around with airs of arrogance because they work at a university. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. One day Mac may be bad enough even for idiots; until then, they are relegated to new-age fruitcakes like you.
Some wine with your game? |
Ouch, fruitcake, now? Someone's getting desperate. Did you learn that from your online game buddies? It's very 1993.
If it ever DOES happen, that Mac becomes so poorly designed, that your bretheren would be able to make the switch without having their heads explode, you can bet Microsoft will STILL be chasing the dream of being more like Mac... except for those simple logic problems.
Don't be embarrassed, there are so many millions like you. A sea of ass scratching blandness, oblivious to a more direct way of operating.
Again, from 1993: There's no accounting for good taste.
Oh well, you better get back to Halo. Bang! Bang! Kapow!! BOOM BOOM! |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
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Thanks. One day Mac may be bad enough even for idiots; until then, they are relegated to new-age fruitcakes like you.
Some wine with your game? |
Ouch, fruitcake, now? Someone's getting desperate. Did you learn that from your online game buddies? It's very 1993.
If it ever DOES happen, that Mac becomes so poorly designed, that your bretheren would be able to make the switch without having their heads explode, you can bet Microsoft will STILL be chasing the dream of being more like Mac... except for those simple logic problems.
Don't be embarrassed, there are so many millions like you. A sea of ass scratching blandness, oblivious to a more direct way of operating.
Again, from 1993: There's no accounting for good taste.
Oh well, you better get back to Halo. Bang! Bang! Kapow!! BOOM BOOM! |
Hehe....well done Crescent....you just proved IlIlnine right....
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What I don't like is that Apple has singlehandedly created the 'snobby geek'..
Where computer-savvy and techy, gadget loving people used to be united in their geekyness, Apple has created a feud where really none should exist.
The bickering is kind of like unigwon teachers vs. hagwon teachers. They both do the same job, but the unigwon teacher walks around with airs of arrogance because they work at a university.
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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What I don't like is that Apple has singlehandedly created the 'snobby geek'..
Where computer-savvy and techy, gadget loving people used to be united in their geekyness, Apple has created a feud where really none should exist.
The bickering is kind of like unigwon teachers vs. hagwon teachers. They both do the same job, but the unigwon teacher walks around with airs of arrogance because they work at a university. |
I don't think Apple is alone in starting the bickering. Microsoft has done a ton to fuel it.. where have you been?
When I see all the laptops sprung open in Starbucks, the Mac user looks no different than the others, doesn't drink anything different, and doesn't act differently.
When a Windows user criticizes, it's legitimate, but when a Mac user does, it's arrogance? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hehe....well done Crescent....you just proved IlIlnine right....
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 I guess you've only been reading MY comments, then.
Ah, right, Demophobe is on your bench. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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What I don't like is that Apple has singlehandedly created the 'snobby geek'..
Where computer-savvy and techy, gadget loving people used to be united in their geekyness, Apple has created a feud where really none should exist.
The bickering is kind of like unigwon teachers vs. hagwon teachers. They both do the same job, but the unigwon teacher walks around with airs of arrogance because they work at a university. |
I don't think Apple is alone in starting the bickering. Microsoft has done a ton to fuel it.. where have you been?
When I see all the laptops sprung open in Starbucks, the Mac user looks no different than the others, doesn't drink anything different, and doesn't act differently.
When a Windows user criticizes, it's legitimate, but when a Mac user does, it's arrogance? |
You know yourself Mac-users have always seen their hardware and software as being superior to Windows. God knows, you said as much on here a million times.......
Yet, you don't really get Windows users saying their laptop is better than a Mac. Or that Windows is better than OSX. Windows users don't need to feel superior to Mac. We're not trying to defend our choice of computer system. We don't need to. We didn't pay so much for it.
............ Steve Jobs and Apple had this great idea in the 80's to market Apple as the 'cool' alternative. So, Apple users, who were once seen at the ultimate geeks because they were fanatic about their tech in a way that Windows users never were, now, by force of marketing, could even see themselves as "cool". Not just their computers.
It became a club. People love to be part of a club. To identify with others and ridicule someone else.
The whole Apple-is-superior-to-Windows-myth, and then the ridiculous idea that going into a store and paying over $2000 for a laptop could make you personally "cool"......that all came from Apple and their users. The arrogance was self-generated.....
.......all this time Windows users have been just standing by, wide-eyed, at your insane loyalty to a brand that you think makes you 'cool'. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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I've also said a million times that I was once a faithful Windows user, with no thought towards the hype. I also said a million times that if Windows operated as seamless and efficient as OSX does, i would switch back. I've pushed both to their limits, and Windows was the clear loser.
I don't think the individual Mac components are better quality, and I have never said that. What I said was that the SYSTEM works much better. I used both, and know enough, to make that judgement. Industry critics have said the same, so it's no myth.
Don't try to deny that Windows has been playing catch-up to OSX.
I don't go shopping for toys with my Mac buddies and we don't sit around basking in our 'coolness'. I despise 'the group' and I always have.
You watch too much TV. I don't need to feel superior, but I'll defend my choices. There are a lot of other Mac users on this board who are a lot less vocal about criticism than Windows users here. I happen to love arguing.
Mac users appear fanatical to Windows users because the OS has done more to pioneer computing. We put it out there in a nice package and it sticks out. It's obvious. It just makes your head spin because you're so focused on price.
Again, for 'acting cool'... i seem to remember a certain Rolling Stones contract used for just that purpose.
"Shut me down"... er, I mean... START ME UP! |
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ublove
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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The reason windows users fail so spectacularly in these stupid threads is that they have little or no hands-on experience with macs and osx. This explains why mac users tend to address the technology, the usability -- you know, the actual issues -- whereas windows users invariably degenerate to character attacks and other substanceless generalities like "coolness".
FYI, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on cool. Just look at alienware and voodoopc. I'm sure a blue screen would look great with a gold paint job. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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The reason windows users fail so spectacularly in these stupid threads is that they have little or no hands-on experience with macs and osx. This explains why mac users tend to address the technology, the usability -- you know, the actual issues -- whereas windows users invariably degenerate to character attacks and other substanceless generalities like "coolness".
FYI, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on cool. Just look at alienware and voodoopc. I'm sure a blue screen would look great with a gold paint job. |
Windows users don't "fail in these threads", we just don't have the zealotry to push it as far as the Macheads. Seriously, crescent must be paid by Mac to be so adamant and...obsessed about it.
I think it is actually defensiveness; that would explain the madness behind the methods in a less damning manner than the reverse. Kind of sad actually; a total ho for a company that doesn't give a crap about you. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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I own both a Windows PC and a Macbook Pro. It makes no difference at all which machine I use when I want to type out a Word document or download something. However, I like playing games so my first choice as a desktop will always be a PC.
I really like the MBP and it runs well, is easy to set up networks and applications etc, but I can't really say if it's better or worse than an equivalent-price Windows notebook. |
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