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nathanrutledge
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what channels you watch in the US, I have never seen a "sharp object" blurred there. Here, I think it depends on what time you watch the show. I've seen plenty of stabbings/shootings/other acts of violence, uncensored on tv here. It's usually late at night when I'm at the gym, say 9 or 10 pm. I have seen stuff like that blurred before though, so I know what you're talking about OP.
Interesting note. The movie "Taken" was released in Korea 1 year before the US. I saw it here when it opened, then went to the US a year later and my father and I saw it when it opened there. They had cut out a few scenes which showed the violence that they allowed here (there was a guy that was shot 6 or 7 times at point blank range and in the US, he's shot maybe 3 times, and they don't show the holes in him afterward). The 007 movies are a prime example. The sex scene with Hallie Berry and Pierce Brosnan in Die Another Day is much longer in the international version than in the US.
Long story short, I'd say it depends on what time you watch it here (and if you think AmeriCa is a fascist society, I don't know what you're smoking.) |
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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Summarizing Epicurus' point since some of you aint getting it.
America=sex is bad, violence is good
Rest of West= sex is good, violence is bad. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I understand that distinction.
What I'm saying is that generally the west tends to not censor knifes and violence. |
once again, there is a distinction between "the West" and Amerika (and yes I am mispelling it on purpose though if I really wanted to get pointed I'd spell it as Amerikka)
While fascinatingly sexually repressed, Amerika has far less repression when it comes to portraying,. much less promoting violence.
the mathematical expression would be as follows
Amerika allows (and glorifies) far less "sex" in its culture than the West.
(remember the hubbub over a split second shot of Janet Jackson's Superbowl nipple that no one really saw unless captured in slo-mo on a hold screen shot)
America allows (and glorifies) far more violence than the West. |
Not disagreeing with that. Europe does have a liberated sense of nudity and portrayal in media compared to America.
Just that the west as a whole does not censor violence as much as Korea.
That's the point I was trying to make. |
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Patrick Bateman
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Location: Lost in Translation
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Explain this censorship? |
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| Carla wrote: |
| So I'm watching Criminal Minds, and there is a quick scene where the guy stabs a woman in the chest with a butcher knife. Ok, quick and simple, not much to it. Here's what I don't understand. The knife is all blurred out. Ok, don't like violence, ok, censored, got it. Well, don't get it, we can still tell what it is, but understand it. But when he stabs the woman, the blood gushing out of her chest is clear as day....... Umm..... Ok.....? |
Honestly, censoring can be pretty terrible. I was watching Ghost Ship (don't judge) on Korean television and there is an extended nude scene, maybe 20 seconds, and the first 10 seconds the woman's breasts are blurred out. She walks past a beam, breasts blurred, only to then be blur free for the rest of the scene.
As far as your particular scene, I'll say there is a difference between violence and gore. Maybe it's the violence, not the gore that troubles the censors. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Goku wrote: |
| Epicurus wrote: |
| Goku wrote: |
I understand that distinction.
What I'm saying is that generally the west tends to not censor knifes and violence. |
once again, there is a distinction between "the West" and Amerika (and yes I am mispelling it on purpose though if I really wanted to get pointed I'd spell it as Amerikka)
While fascinatingly sexually repressed, Amerika has far less repression when it comes to portraying,. much less promoting violence.
the mathematical expression would be as follows
Amerika allows (and glorifies) far less "sex" in its culture than the West.
(remember the hubbub over a split second shot of Janet Jackson's Superbowl nipple that no one really saw unless captured in slo-mo on a hold screen shot)
America allows (and glorifies) far more violence than the West. |
Not disagreeing with that. Europe does have a liberated sense of nudity and portrayal in media compared to America.
Just that the west as a whole does not censor violence as much as Korea.
That's the point I was trying to make. |
I think the problem is you're trying to "understand" Korea,... from Western logical standpoint.
I predict short circuit - it does not compute |
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oldenew
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Epicurus wrote: |
| Goku wrote: |
| Epicurus wrote: |
| Goku wrote: |
I understand that distinction.
What I'm saying is that generally the west tends to not censor knifes and violence. |
once again, there is a distinction between "the West" and Amerika (and yes I am mispelling it on purpose though if I really wanted to get pointed I'd spell it as Amerikka)
While fascinatingly sexually repressed, Amerika has far less repression when it comes to portraying,. much less promoting violence.
the mathematical expression would be as follows
Amerika allows (and glorifies) far less "sex" in its culture than the West.
(remember the hubbub over a split second shot of Janet Jackson's Superbowl nipple that no one really saw unless captured in slo-mo on a hold screen shot)
America allows (and glorifies) far more violence than the West. |
Not disagreeing with that. Europe does have a liberated sense of nudity and portrayal in media compared to America.
Just that the west as a whole does not censor violence as much as Korea.
That's the point I was trying to make. |
I think the problem is you're trying to "understand" Korea,... from Western logical standpoint.
I predict short circuit - it does not compute |
This is the basis of most, if not all,serious problems going on in the world right now, and has been throughout a significant chunk of history. Lots of times the "other side" isn't wrong...just different! Not always, but more often than the media would present to you on a nightly basis. |
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