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[BobbyOrr]

[Rteacher]

This website lists "60s and 70s Chartbusters" in the UK so you can see how popular some American bands were there.
http://www.backdate.co.uk/Chartbusters.htm

I was an avid "Top 40" listener before radio stations changed their formats to accommodate progressive rock, etc. My own list of American favorites from that period would include the Four Seasons (Frankie Valli), Gene Pitney, Beach Boys, Jay and the Americans, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, Trini Lopez, the Dovells (Len Barry) some "Spector sound" groups like the Righteous Bros., Ronettes, Crystals, etc. some Motown stuff - led by Marvin Gaye and the Supremes (Diana Ross) and a lot of one-hit wonders and novelty songs (Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight" Jimmy Soul - "If You Want to be Happy for the Rest of Your Life"...) Of course, Chubby Checkers "Twist" was an international hit.

The British Invasion pushed Motown and most of the other popular American acts to lower rungs on the "Top 40" charts for a time, led by the Beatles, Dave Clark Five, Animals, Kinks, Rolling Stones, Hermans Hermits, Gerry and the Pacemakers, the Searchers, Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas - and even Freddy and the Dreamers (for the bubblegum set...)

In the mid-60s Americans fought back the British tide with Motown and vocal groups like the Mamas and Pappas and Sonny and Cher, but the Brits kept coming with acts like The Who and Spencer Davis Group along with the Beatles and Stones, etc.

By the late 60s, radio formats were largely changed and West Coast bands like Jefferson Airplane, Credence Clearwater Revival, Moby Grape, Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Mothers of Invention (Frank Zappa) the Doors, Country Joe and the Fish,and Big Brother and the Holding Co. (Janis Joplin) became very influential - along with the great Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

But the Brits continued to export great bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Traffic, Cream, T-Rex, and King Crimson - while the Beatles, Stones, Animals, and Who were still hugely popular.

By 1970, my personal favorites among American acts were the aformentioned Butterfield Blues band and Jefferson Airplane; Southern rock bands Allman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd; Doctor John (when he was "the Night Tripper", the Fugs, the Mothers, Velvet Underground, Ultimate Spinach, Jim Kweskin and the Jug Band (with Maria Muldaur) and the more far-out stuff of jazz greats John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders.

I won't even get further into the 70s - at the risk of having flash-backs....

[rusty1983]

I was listening to the radio the other day and they were saying traditionally the British method has been to 'steal US music and sell it back to them'.

[Unposter]

For what it is worth, I believe that Procul Harum, a great band by the way, was Canadian.

And, other than Mick Jagger, I cannot think of any College graduates among the British Invasion bands. And, I cannot think of a British Invasion band that was not openly working class in the image they tried to keep. Ray Davies of Kinks fame still calls himself a "working man."

One should not leave Bob Dylan out of the discussion as he greatly influenced the rock music of the 60s and 70s. He influenced the Beatles and he is as an important song writer as Lennon/McCartney.

And, there were many great 60s American bands/musicians, especially as mentioned earlier the whole San Francisco scene. And, California continued to play an important stomping ground for the musicians of the 70s.

But, I have to give the British Invasion sound, and not just the Beatles, but the whole genre, a big thumbs up. IMO, the best sound that has been produced and the best over all music of any group of musicians.

It is going to be awhile before see something like the British Invasion again. Though, no doubt, eventually things happen again.

[Cheonmunka]

About nowadays, there are a lot of people stuck inside their houses doing home recording.
As someone mentioned on page one, guys have to get on with their professional lives and career and earning so there is less time for music -
So, if the down and outs can play well and often, then they sort of can't go all-out as they don't have the gear ...
So, we end up with a large pool of musos coming from the middle class, And a lot of derivative revival stuff (and covers.)

Original home recorded based music doesn't go to a far and wide audience with a few exceptions, and major record labels tend to only latch onto a sure thing with promotion already made and built-in so that means Idol contestants especially get contracts. But, there is Motown and stuff that still listen to demos ... and a lot of independent labels.

I am actually impressed a little with NZ as it has set the NZ made radio quota at about 30%. This excites me. I am looking at on my return to NZ setting up a small studio to record local youth bands part time. Might even get a grant from the government to help the costs.
I got a song on the RadioNZ once. Just recorded and walked in and asked them to play it.
It must be even easier now to get music heard. Especially if it is well recorded and may even have a video done with the demo.

[Fishead soup]

I wonder if anyone noticed how similar these songs are

I can't Explain The Who

Clash City Rockers The Clash

Two fantastic examples of great British Rebel music.

[halfmanhalfbiscuit]

Increased amplification by British bands really helped things along.

eg The Who-Roger Daltrey complained that he couldn't hear himself over Townshend so got a bigger PA. Then Entwistle followed suit

[Benicio]

Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this thread really surprised me!

Really? Does the OP not know about how music evolved in the States and UK?

Has the OP never watched any documentary on American or UK music or any story about one of the bands and how they came about- Beatles, Stones, et.- Does the OP really not know this?

I can't believe that the OP is just now "figuring out" that the Brits had some amazing music that they took from black Americans and expanded on it so much while the white Americans seemed to be playing catch up.
Who didn't already know that?

If you didn't, then wow! Just wow!

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