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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus
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| oldtactics wrote: |
I find people who use the cruelty argument interesting - are you vegetarians? Do you consider the forced feeding and toxic conditions that cows and pigs live in in the US to be somehow better/less torture? Animals get abused every second on factory farms in the US - what makes dogs so much more special/worthy of concern?
Not challenging, just asking. |
One difference is the intentional torture. Yes, cows, pigs chickens and other factory farm animals live tortured lives. However, their horrible existence is a result of raising them in the most cost efficient manner possible. Dogs, on the other hand, are intentionally tortured for reasons which have no scientific backing.
Granted, the end result is the same. In both cases animals are tortured, but intent should hold some weight in/on/over(hmmm can't think of the right preposition here) the morality of the issue.
Regardless, I'll eat anything, and I invite you all to dine on my flesh when my time comes. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
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Loudog
Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Location: Shiheung
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
You are made out of meat too.  |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| It's the animals' fault for tasting so good. Fish too. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| oldtactics wrote: |
| I find people who use the cruelty argument interesting - are you vegetarians? |
Yes, I am. However, even before I decided to be vegetarian, I was against the cruelty.
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| Do you consider the forced feeding and toxic conditions that cows and pigs live in in the US to be somehow better/less torture? |
Yes, I do consider those conditions to be less torture than burning the dog alive.
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| Animals get abused every second on factory farms in the US - what makes dogs so much more special/worthy of concern? |
The difference is that there are laws in the US and those laws do get enforced. In Korea, the law isn't even a suggestion more often than not; it's merely a sound bite. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Well done OP...this is only like the 50th thread on this issue... |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Loudog wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
You are made out of meat too. |
Eat me. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Loudog wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
You are made out of meat too. |
Eat me. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Loudog wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
You are made out of meat too. |
Eat me. |
Only if you've been dispatched humanely. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| Maserial wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Loudog wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| If God dodn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
You are made out of meat too. |
Eat me. |
Only if you've been dispatched humanely. |
Then don't throw me in a classroom with 38 middle school boys... that's just cruel.  |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think a question with much larger implications is: Will the world ever stop eating McDonalds? |
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drydell
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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teaching private lessons to koreans (on E2) - illegal - response from this forum - do not talk about it - harm done - some korean kids slightly improve their English.
Eating dog meat (from possibly tortured-to-death dog) - illegal - response from this forum - say how delicious and fun it is..no reprimands - harm done - horrible suffering..if what was done to the dogs was done to small children many people would be shouting for the death penalty for the person responsible..
am I alone in thinking some moral compasses need adjusting? |
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joyfulgirl
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:25 am Post subject: |
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If I ruled the world, no one would eat any animal! (I'd still let other animals eat animals...hmm..tho, just thought that horse is a major ingredient in dog food..hmm..ok, will think on that further..)
Many animals are more or less tortured to death...chickens in cages, dogs in bags, lobsters in pots, so on and so forth. It grosses me right the f out, so I stopped eating any meat a long time ago.
That said, I don't think Koreans eating dogs is any different from a Swede eating meatballs.
People seem to want to eat animals. And kill each other over religion. And have more and more children. And keep using plastic bags. I can only shake my head and hope it will all get better someday, in the future...when Jean Luc Picard is born.
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| drydell wrote: |
if what was done to the dogs was done to small children many people would be shouting for the death penalty for the person responsible..
am I alone in thinking some moral compasses need adjusting? |
Yes. Human beings are sentient creatures not animals. However, if you can do to the dogs what we do to small children (teach them English as best we are capable) it would be pretty dang entertaining. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| To answer the question in the title of this thread, I'd say "yes", but only after the ajosshis die off. The younger generation is less fanatical about dog meat soup. |
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