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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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I've thought about this before. I think I could kill someone if I felt they deserved it, but when I think about disposing of the body, I get squeamish. I mean, cutting through all the bones, putting the body into bags? The worst part would be all the blood though.
As much as I like the show (and I do), I prefer the Batman way of doing things. |
It's the stomach contents that deters me. |
And people lose control of their bowels when they die. Ew. |
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yeti08
Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Everytime I watch this show that question arises in my head. Could I? I say that yes I could kill someone if they have done something heinous especially if it was someone I was close to emotionally. BUT like most people claiming how easy it would be I doubt when it came down to it I could do it like Dexter does..... Maybe shooting someone from afar, but not wrapping them in shrink wrap and stabbing them is a sharp instrument......nope probably couldn't do that.
Also if it were reactionary to seeing them murder or rape someone, I think I may go berzerk and kill them. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:58 am Post subject: |
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OP, do you mean, "could you stalk and gruesomely murder somebody you know to be Evil (whatever that may be to you), dismember them, and dispose of the body, at great personal risk, whilst lying to your friends and family about it, forever?"
The Full Dexter?
Hmmm. There must be a better way...
But in an extreme case, maybe. Like, "if you had a time machine, would you go Full Dexter on John Wayne Gacy/ Hitler/ Jeffy Dahmer?"
I suppose I would, if nobody else wanted to, and if it would save lives or whatever.
But...in real life?
I'd have to say I probably just don't have it in me.
Hope I never meet somebody who I feel needs to have that done to them.
BTW, you have all probably seen this already, but there was allegedly a guy who went Full Dexter on a (presumably) non-evil person in Alberta some months ago. Appropriately enough the alleged killer's name is 'Twitchell.' I'm automatically suspicious of people whose names have 'twitch' in them.
http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alberta/2009/08/20/10526986-sun.html
Seems the fellow 'idolized' Dexter and mimicked his MO to the point of getting busted while wearing the same clothes dexter wears.
There's a lock on details, for legal reasons, and the trial's not done yet. He's been granted bail. The media has already convicted him though for reasons made clear if you read the link and maybe google the case a bit further. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
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| You need to watch the movie "Sniper" starring Tom Berringer and Billy Zane. It's not too far from the truth. When it comes right down to it philosophizing about pulling a trigger and actually doing it at the moment are worlds apart. There are reasons that when a person is lethally injected they have multiple people pressing the buttons (all dummies but one) because of the psychological angst persons can feel after the fact knowing that they had killed someone. |
I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I don't know how many of you were actually serious in this thread, but it just sounds like a bunch of guys who talk tough but probably couldn't go through with anything. Not that I have any first-hand experience, but you are obviously going to be in a much different mental (physically, too) state when you're faced with killing someone as opposed to sitting in a room in front of a computer. |
+1
My old apartment in college was in a rougher neighborhood and one night a guy was beating up on his gf in the hallway. After yelling at me to GTFO, I called the cops, put my .357 rig on, stepped back into the hallway and told him he'd better leave as I had called the police. He took a few steps towards me so I pulled the gun out of the holster.
Pointing a gun at another person, even after watching him beat up a woman half his size, is one of the hardest things anyone can do, and that's not even pulling the trigger. But once you make that decision to bring the gun into it, they either back off or you kill them, end of story. So yeah, I've made that commitment before. Hope I don't have to again. |
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GreenlightmeansGO
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I used to think that maybe some people didn't 'deserve' to live...my experiences over the last few years have pushed me more toward certainty. Whether I could end someone's life...haven't been anywhere near that experience, so I can't say. Haven't even been in a fight since I was about 11.
BTW, Dexter enjoys killing...it's not just about him killing bad guys, his 'code' justifies his desires. |
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Forward Observer
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Love what he named his boat.
"Slice of Life" haha |
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drkalbi
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, Dexter enjoys killing...it's not just about him killing bad guys, his 'code' justifies his desires.[/quote]
I think this is important. It's not just could you kill someone, but could you actually enjoy it. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| blurgalurgalurga wrote: |
OP, do you mean, "could you stalk and gruesomely murder somebody you know to be Evil (whatever that may be to you), dismember them, and dispose of the body, at great personal risk, whilst lying to your friends and family about it, forever?"
The Full Dexter?
Hmmm. There must be a better way...
But in an extreme case, maybe. Like, "if you had a time machine, would you go Full Dexter on John Wayne Gacy/ Hitler/ Jeffy Dahmer?"
I suppose I would, if nobody else wanted to, and if it would save lives or whatever.
But...in real life?
I'd have to say I probably just don't have it in me.
Hope I never meet somebody who I feel needs to have that done to them.
BTW, you have all probably seen this already, but there was allegedly a guy who went Full Dexter on a (presumably) non-evil person in Alberta some months ago. Appropriately enough the alleged killer's name is 'Twitchell.' I'm automatically suspicious of people whose names have 'twitch' in them.
http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alberta/2009/08/20/10526986-sun.html
Seems the fellow 'idolized' Dexter and mimicked his MO to the point of getting busted while wearing the same clothes dexter wears.
There's a lock on details, for legal reasons, and the trial's not done yet. He's been granted bail. The media has already convicted him though for reasons made clear if you read the link and maybe google the case a bit further. |
Woa, usually you read an article, and after giving the dirty details the reporter goes into individuals commenting on what a horrible crime it was and how they are shocked at society these days, man's inhumanity to man and such. I think I got kind of freaked out that rather than end with the conventional stuff, the reporter chose to end it with:
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"We think it's a great story," said Phillips, who was in Edmonton just days ago doing interviews for the segment.
"The appeal is that there is a comparison to the TV show Dexter. It's a case that appears to mirror a Dexter-like murder. There's ready-made interest." |
He's probably trying to direct the reader's attention to the cold reaction if the ABC News producer, but it isn't what I'm used to reading in a news story. There is a formula writers use, and when they step outside the formula they usually give some pretty overt hints about the message they're trying to convey. I'm curious enough to look the guy up and see what kind of stories he normally writes. |
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ATlasIAm
Joined: 27 Oct 2008
Location: Sincheon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| hells now. to each his own. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Goku wrote: |
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| Our species must be clear and pure of dirt ... |
What does this even mean? |
I have a very communist and collectivist thinking about humanity. I think humanity should be a unit, much like cells in the human body. Our species should be working together united like a bee hive or an ant colony. (super organism) For the most part, we can achieve social harmony. The problem is there are too much "cheaters" or "viruses" such as psychopaths or people with APD. Which is why we don't trust each other. In some way we do. We trade, produce and help each other survive...
but the people who cheat steal and kill without purpose are meaningless to the survival of the human agenda. They need to be purged. They serve no higher function to the survival of our species.
Here's a test you can do. Think about yourself, if you could trade the lives of every human on the planet, if only it meant that you would die sooner... would you do it? I think most of us would. Because we are dedicated to each other and bonded (even if in far distance) by some kind of shared blood. But those who kill and are heinous to other people aren't like us. They are like viruses in the body only out to kill and destroy, and ultimately leading into their own destruction. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:04 am Post subject: |
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I have a very communist and collectivist thinking about humanity. I think humanity should be a unit, much like cells in the human body. Our species should be working together united like a bee hive or an ant colony. (super organism) For the most part, we can achieve social harmony. The problem is there are too much "cheaters" or "viruses" such as psychopaths or people with APD. Which is why we don't trust each other. In some way we do. We trade, produce and help each other survive...
but the people who cheat steal and kill without purpose are meaningless to the survival of the human agenda. They need to be purged. They serve no higher function to the survival of our species.
Here's a test you can do. Think about yourself, if you could trade the lives of every human on the planet, if only it meant that you would die sooner... would you do it? I think most of us would. Because we are dedicated to each other and bonded (even if in far distance) by some kind of shared blood. But those who kill and are heinous to other people aren't like us. They are like viruses in the body only out to kill and destroy, and ultimately leading into their own destruction. |
It's this line of thought that has lead to some the worst atrocities in history by the governments that accept it as truth. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Goku wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Goku wrote: |
| Our species must be clear and pure of dirt ... |
What does this even mean? |
I have a very communist and collectivist thinking about humanity. I think humanity should be a unit, much like cells in the human body. Our species should be working together united like a bee hive or an ant colony. (super organism) For the most part, we can achieve social harmony. The problem is there are too much "cheaters" or "viruses" such as psychopaths or people with APD. Which is why we don't trust each other. In some way we do. We trade, produce and help each other survive...
but the people who cheat steal and kill without purpose are meaningless to the survival of the human agenda. They need to be purged. They serve no higher function to the survival of our species.
Here's a test you can do. Think about yourself, if you could trade the lives of every human on the planet, if only it meant that you would die sooner... would you do it? I think most of us would. Because we are dedicated to each other and bonded (even if in far distance) by some kind of shared blood. But those who kill and are heinous to other people aren't like us. They are like viruses in the body only out to kill and destroy, and ultimately leading into their own destruction. |
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Wow, your copy of the communist manifesto paraphrases a lot like mein kampf. You might want to look a little more closely at how marx analysis conflict before you jump on into the witch burnings. |
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