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[Leon]

I have to say that on some level I agree with TUM on this one. She should not have passed on anything he said to anybody. She agreed not to, and then she did. In the case of a terrorist, if he indeed is one I can't say if he is or not, passing on messages is aiding the enemy. It's a valid security concern. It's a bit disgusting how crime lords can still run their gangs from prison, the last thing we need is terrorists making calls from their cells. She crossed a line. Was the sentence too harsh, yes, but she made a dumb mistake.

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Do you even have a clue as to what this case was about? The woman's crime consisted in giving a press release! That's it. And not just any woman, but the defendant's attorney! A defendant who was not even guilty, BTW!

The real aim of this prosecution is to chill vigorous defense by an attorney of his client lest the attorney get charged with the client's crime. If you cannot see the dangerous precedent this sets, I am afraid I cannot explain it to you any further.

Yet another sad day for justice.

[Leon]

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What, the CIA-edited Wikipedia again? OK, you can't beat a dead horse. But I will take heart in you at least admitting that 10 years for a 70-year-old cancer victim who has spent the last 30 years defending the downtrodden and voiceless is too harsh.

Anyway, Lynne answers all the letters she gets. Those of you who would like to can show your support by writing her at:

Lynne Stewart #53504-054
MCC-NY 150 Park Row
New York, NY NY 10007

* To donate to the Lynne Stewart Defense Fund:

1. Make checks payable to National Lawyers Guild Foundation
2. Write �Lynne Stewart Defense Committee� in the memo line
3. Send check to:


Lynne Stewart Defense Committee
350 Broadway, Suite 700
New York, NY 10013

* To donate money directly into Lynne�s commissary, please follow the directions below:

1. go to http://www.bop.gov (website of the Bureau of Prisons)
2. click on �inmate matters� at top of the page.
3. click on �inmate money� on left of page.
4. scroll down to the section on �Western Union Quick Collect Program�.
5. Scroll a little further down to where it says �3) ONLINE using a credit/debit card.�
6. Click on the link that says, �The inmate�s family and friends may go to westernunion and select �Quick Collect�. Important note: this link takes you to the �Western Union Inmate Services� website, NOT the regular western union website. The direct address to the Western Union Inmate Services website is https://www.inmateservices.westernunion.com
7. Note that the instructions on the BOP page (step 5) are (surprise surprise) not quite right. Specifically, the part that says, �1) Valid Inmate Eight Digit Register Number (entered with no spaces or dashes and immediately followed by Inmate�s Last Name)� is wrong. For �Inmate Registration #� you simply enter �53504054."

Your donations are greatly appreciated! If you have further questions, please email us at info at www.lynnestewart.org.

[TheUrbanMyth]

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The fact remains that Lynne's "crime" consisted in merely violating the Special Administrative Measures of the Bureau of Prisons. Lawyers who do this are normally sanctioned by loss of visiting privileges. To be criminally charged is practically unheard of, as evidenced by her co-counsel Ramsey Clark and another, who engaged in the same behavior and were not even charged! For her to receive terrorism charges over this is so way out of line, it's tragically absurd.

The message to lawyers remains clear: don't represent your client too vigorously .

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Lynne's sentence has been increased on the grounds of perjury. Let's see what Ralph Poynter, life partner of Lynne, had to say about that:

"It's perjury - I mean it's the US government. The president begins lying during his candidacy, only to renege on every promise - war, health care, social security, the economy, etc. To excuse the president, it is quoted, he must perjure himself to become president. It is an understood and unstated American way. Accepted perjury.

When taking the oath of office, the president swears to uphold the Constitution, and then proceeds to support the dismantling of the Constitution, the PATRIOT Act. Hypocritical perjury.

In office, the president employs signing, i.e. while signing a bill, the president also signs a statement that he will not abide by the bill. Premeditated perjury, and there's more perjury going on in these two years than in ALL of the Bush administration.

When Lynne Stewart was attacked by the government for making a press release on the Sheik's behalf, it was revealed that the other attorney had made press releases before she did. The NY federal prosecutor said they didn't know about them. The national federal prosecutor said other lawyers should be charged and arrested. The Court of Appeals said it was selective prosecution, but they would not deal with it, and LS should be further prosecuted and given a harsher sentence. Prosecutorial perjury.

Is there anyone on the planet who does not know that the Landmarks case was hatched and planned for by the US government with an Egyptian operative named Emad Salem? Is there anyone on this planet who does not know that the FBI directed every step of the plot, promising unemployed, hapless hangers-on money to be involved in this so-called plot? It was staged, financed, and filmed by the undercover operative Emad Salem with constant oversight by the FBI. They desired to discredit the blind sheik. The FBI tried the blind sheik for not reporting the FBI operative to the FBI. The blind sheik merely said, "I don't think this would be good for Islam, and no, pick another target, never acquiescing to a plan of Emad Salem. National security perjury.

The judge first rejected this case against LS as being "vague." The judge reversed himself and allowed the case to proceed. The judge allowed Osama bin Laden in the case while saying he had only to do with the state of mind of a third defendant. He allowed the massacre of Luxor in the case, I guess just for dramatic effect. It had nothing to do with the case. Judicial perjury.

Finally, I want to talk about the perjury on the part of the so-called progressive people who leap to embrace any and every petty accusation made about LS. She is arrogant; she would like to think she would support the First Amendment speech; she would like to think she would defend the right of people to have an attorney; she is not remorseful.

Have we forgotten bravery, courage, Patrick Henry, John Brown, Harriet Tubman, Fannie Lou Hamer? Have we forgotten the principles of LS, the principle that she stood by for 50 years? Have we forgotten who we claim to be - progressive people? Whose side are we on, brothers and sisters? Let us remember John Paul Jones: "We have not yet begun to fight!" Join us, join Lynne, join the struggle, the view of America that is inclusive and that we think America should have and should become.

Thank you.

From: Taking Aim Radio, 22 July 2010

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Sat, November 20:

2 heroic women political prisoners -

A Good-bye to Lynne Stewart - 4 to 6pm


Saturday, Nov 20, from 4 to 6 pm, is the last chance to send a greeting to heroic peoples lawyer Lynne Stewart, through the prison bars at MCC. Lynne is soon to be transferred � to who knows where.

This may be the last opportunity, in a long time, for Lynne to see her many supporters and for all of us to see her - waving from the window.


This is the 1-year anniversary of Lynne Stewart's bail being revoked and her incarceration at MCC.


On July 15, 2010 Lynne Stewart, age 71 was re-sentenced to 10 years in prison. Lynne was originally arrested in April 2002 and falsely accused of aiding terrorism because she issued a press release. This is an obvious attempt by the U.S. government to silence dissent, curtail vigorous defense lawyers, and install fear in those who would fight against the U.S. government�s racism, seek to help Arabs and Muslims being prosecuted for free speech and defend the rights of all oppressed people.


Please come out to show your love, solidarity and support to Lynne.


Gather St Foley Sq, Tom Paine Park, corner of Center St & Pearl St, Manhattan.


From 4 to 6pm this Saturday.


Bring flashlights, drums, bells, horns.

Let's be visible and loud, so that Lynne can both hear and see us.


Write Lynne:

To send Lynne a letter, write:

Lynne Stewart, #53504-054

MCC-NY, 150 Park Row

New York, NY 10007



For information or to donate to Lynne�s commissary see: www.lynnestewart.org

[TheUrbanMyth]

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How exactly does a press release expressing support for a cease-fire constitute "instructions"?

The blind sheik was not a terrorist. You got a lot to learn about who the real terrorists are. Every single one of the plots in the Landmarks case had the fingerprints of US and Mossad intelligence all over them, e.g. Ghouzi Hadas, renter of the Ryder van used in the first WTC bombing, was a Mossad agent; Emad Salim, who provided the explosives, was a paid FBI informant.

Get a clue already, rather than blindly supporting every action by every Western government and law enforcement agency.

[TheUrbanMyth]

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What DID happen was that the sheik said

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I reiterate, the important thing to remember here is that every single one of the plots in the Landmarks case (the original case against the sheik in which Stewart defended him) had the fingerprints of US and Mossad intelligence all over them, e.g. Ghouzi Hadas, renter of the Ryder van used in the first WTC bombing, was a Mossad agent; Emad Salim, who provided the explosives, was a paid FBI informant.

Those (Mossad and FBI) are the real criminals here who should be prosecuted, not a 70-year-old human rights lawyer who has spent her life defending the downtrodden and voiceless. The real intent of Lynne's prosecution is to chill vigorous defense lest the lawyer be charged with the defendant's crime, too.

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Lynne Stewart Transferred to Texas

A heroic role model deserving support at her time of need, facing nine more years unless granted redress at a very tough time when prosecutors demand cruel and unusual punishment, not mitigation. Silence, timidity, and inaction are no options against it.