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[Rusty Shackleford]

[Gopher]

Come on, Rusy, get with the program:

The Republicans represent business interests and the antimodern, irrational evangelical right; the Democrats represent "the people" and have no conflicts-of-interest.

[asylum seeker]

[Fox]

[Konglishman]

[bacasper]

[bassist33]

Seeing as the jobs are public sector jobs, it would only make sense that previous public sector experience would be more important.

Or.. are you saying that employees of McDonalds are more qualified to advise the President on education than someone who has been the Super Intendant of Public Schools in Chicago? That's the only conclusion I can come to..

[Reggie]

Why not? Some of these public university graduates flipping burgers at McDonald's these days probably have a more realistic perspective of the failed public education system in America than the Superintendent of Public Schools in Chicago has. The superintendent probably thinks the public schools in Chicago are wonderful.

Or maybe a better choice would be former Washington Redskins "Secretary of Defense" Dexter Manley, who graduated high school in Texas and studied at Oklahoma State University for four years despite being so illiterate that he couldn't read road signs or food menus. I bet he knows more about how screwed up the public education system is than his high school teachers, his high school principal, the superintendents, university professors, university president, and others who received fat paychecks and either didn't know or didn't care that their most famous student couldn't even read.

[Fox]

[Rusty Shackleford]

[nathanrutledge]

The thing to look at with government jobs is that they contribute nothing to themselves. They only survive on taxes, and in that regard, they contribute nothing to society. As one pointed out, they provide the NON tangible benefits (security, justice) that protect society.

The fact that Obama's people have no " real world" experience should bother people because they have experience with a business. Working within a budget, meeting expectations, getting concrete results are all things that one must do in the private sector or face consequences. Working for the government (the upper echelons of the federal government mainly), the budget is limitless, expectations are flexible, results aren't necessary.

Think about a private business. If a private business said "we're going to change how healthcare is done and we're going to do it now," then came back three or four times to change the date, change the numbers, change the expectations, that business would fail. Yes, that example focus' more on Congress, but as Gopher pointed out, many folks there haven't had an honest job in their lives either!

Under Bush, love him or hate him, you cannot say that he didn't get things done OR that he didn't have an agenda that he pushed to the best of his ability. HIS appointees were businesspeople and they understood what it took to do the job. Obama's people are pie in the sky optimists who think that the world is Gumdrop mountain where we all get handjobs and lollipops. They don't have the experience to push through a practical agenda in a reasonable amount of time. IF they had some experience in the private sector, I think they'd be able to read the field a lot better and actually get some work done.

[Fox]

[gakduki]

I have a strong feeling that the governments in heavily indebted states will not be able to pay the wages one day as the tax base continues to be eroded while public sector salaries increase. This will cause the public sectors to strike and once again prove that they are not hero's or working for the good of the people. Most of them are in comfortable, cushy jobs and their only interest is a predictable above average paycheck.
It is absolutely discusting how much these people make above the average wage and their politician bosses cannot balance a book to save a life.
Someone made a comment about the irky libertarian right, I'm no libertarian. I am more of a realist and I realize such a system cannot continue and eventually there will be a horrible reset--a lefty's nightmare. When only the rich can afford essential services. I believe all civil servants salaries should be a fuction of how much taxes are being collected by government and inflation. Nothing irks me more than watching public employees strike during a recession.

As for Obama's cabinet, what do you expect? If the govenment was run like a corporation by cabable individuals things would be far worse. Mandatory layoffs in the summer, taxes continually arising (we are talking about an absolute monopoly on taxation.) Would their goal be to maximize taxation and minimize service? Or would it be to maximize service and minimize taxation? What incentives are there to do a good job? A third term?. Or perhaps they can be elevated to the board of directors in multiple firms as a form of extra compensation as such is the case today.

[Rusty Shackleford]

[Fox]