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knappylogic
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
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seonsengnimble:
Actually, synthetic chemicals leave residues (i.e. toxins) in the body that naturally occuring chemicals do not. I leave you to research the physiological implications (if it interests you). |
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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
Yeah, I get the picture, but I think your line of thinking is flawed. Exposure to chemicals is pretty much impossible to avoid in this period of history. However, most people prefer to lower their exposure to chemicals. It seems like you have a "devil may care" attitude, let the food corporations put whatever in my food.
How many times has factory farming messed up our food? Ecoli poisoning, BSE (Mad Cow). Avian Flu, antibiotic intolerance,
Cancer rates keep climbing... |
I do care what's in my food. I just don't think that if something doesn't come from the earth that it will damage me. There are plenty of harmful chemicals which are man made, but it isn't because they are man made. It's because they're harmful. I'm all for genetic modification. We've actually been genetically modifying our food since the beginning of civilization by selectively breeding crops and livestock.
If you want to claim that certain additives cause certain illnesses, all I ask is for actual data, not anecdotes or correlation fallacies.
Also, this whole nonsense about organic food being good for the environment makes no sense. If I have 1,000 chickens crammed into a box, that's going to have less of an environmental impact than having them spread out over a large area where I need to chop down a forest to make room. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| seonsengnimble wrote: |
Also, this whole nonsense about organic food being good for the environment makes no sense. If I have 1,000 chickens crammed into a box, that's going to have less of an environmental impact than having them spread out over a large area where I need to chop down a forest to make room. |
Aren't we talking about Western countries here? Particularly in the U.S. I don't think there's a shortage of farmland to raise chickens the natural way.
Plus, people should be ready to pay the proper price for food especially if it's healthier food. For people who can't, governments should subsidize it.
There is more of an environmental impact with factory farming. All the antibiotics and hormones given to the animals gets into the water in rural communities through animal waste.
There's also the cruelty issue. I agree with the view presented in Food.inc which says that the whole industry is disrespectful from the animals to the migrant workers that slaughter them. A generation ago, working in a meat packing plant was a respected, skilled and unionized job. People were well paid and wanted to enter this profession. Today it's staffed by desperate immigrants - many of them illegal. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| sharkey wrote: |
| Anyone who promotes the well being of animals is a great person in my book. |
It depends on how effective they are and whether the steps they're promoting are meaningful. Cage-free isn't good enough ... other animals shouldn't be resources for humans. |
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