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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once dated a Mongolian girl who had no knowledge of English whatsoever. Luckily, I had started to pick up Korean by that time (she spoke Korean) and I had already learned how to write/read Cyrillic (Mongolians use it) so the communication barrier was minimal.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking on the positive side, if you ever become a permanent item, it's going to take you a lot longer to run out of things to say to each other.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think anyone who is fine being in a serious, long-term relationship with someone they cannot easily communicate with has problems. That's just my opinion. I was in one of these relationships for over a year and I can't fathom why anyone would take one seriously. I'm not okay with not being able to communicate freely. I think these relationships often just boil down to the bedroom. Really. They do.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
I think anyone who is fine being in a serious, long-term relationship with someone they cannot easily communicate with has problems. That's just my opinion. I was in one of these relationships for over a year and I can't fathom why anyone would take one seriously. I'm not okay with not being able to communicate freely. I think these relationships often just boil down to the bedroom. Really. They do.


I think you just described 75% of the women I've been with, and most of them were native speakers. Laughing
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
Bloopity Bloop wrote:
I think anyone who is fine being in a serious, long-term relationship with someone they cannot easily communicate with has problems. That's just my opinion. I was in one of these relationships for over a year and I can't fathom why anyone would take one seriously. I'm not okay with not being able to communicate freely. I think these relationships often just boil down to the bedroom. Really. They do.


I think you just described 75% of the women I've been with, and most of them were native speakers. Laughing


Touche! Laughing

I see what you're sayin', so I guess you add in that additional language barrier and you get what I'm sayin'
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
I dated a girl whose English was not great, and although we didnt' have a great amazing fulfilling relationship outside of the fooling around, I found I was ok with just sitting there and not saying anything, moreso than I would have imagined.


I agree with Old Gil on this count. Good conversation is nice, but it can also be nice to just experience a certain sort of comfort and closeness. Non-verbal affection like being near one another, eye contact, holding hands, and so forth are all things that can work despite language barriers.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
I dated a girl whose English was not great, and although we didnt' have a great amazing fulfilling relationship outside of the fooling around, I found I was ok with just sitting there and not saying anything, moreso than I would have imagined.


I agree with Old Gil on this count. Good conversation is nice, but it can also be nice to just experience a certain sort of comfort and closeness. Non-verbal affection like being near one another, eye contact, holding hands, and so forth are all things that can work despite language barriers.


For a short time, yes.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
Fox wrote:
Old Gil wrote:
I dated a girl whose English was not great, and although we didnt' have a great amazing fulfilling relationship outside of the fooling around, I found I was ok with just sitting there and not saying anything, moreso than I would have imagined.


I agree with Old Gil on this count. Good conversation is nice, but it can also be nice to just experience a certain sort of comfort and closeness. Non-verbal affection like being near one another, eye contact, holding hands, and so forth are all things that can work despite language barriers.


For a short time, yes.


I wish we could just have our cake and eat it too; is that so much to ask? I will reciprocate with wit and intelligence if the person I am pursuing can give as good as they get.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With most women all you have to tell them is "You're beautiful." I find this is especially true with girls here. Just say "너는 아름답다" every couple of days and she's yours.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asams wrote:
With most women all you have to tell them is "You're beautiful." I find this is especially true with girls here. Just say "너는 아름답다" every couple of days and she's yours.


I'm totally texting that to this k-girl when I get home. My hero.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
asams wrote:
With most women all you have to tell them is "You're beautiful." I find this is especially true with girls here. Just say "너는 아름답다" every couple of days and she's yours.


I'm totally texting that to this k-girl when I get home. My hero.


It's more polite and meaningful if you say "당신은 아름다워요" unless you're saying it to your dog
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you call a girl you're dating 당신 she's going to get weirded out. Why even use a subject? if you must go with 니 or 자기, or 여보 (ㅋㅋ don't do this unless she's actually wifey).
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
if you call a girl you're dating 당신 she's going to get weirded out. Why even use a subject? if you must go with 니 or 자기, or 여보 (ㅋㅋ don't do this unless she's actually wifey).


당신 is actually a reasonable way to address a woman you're dating, especially if she's slightly old fashioned. While my girlfriend prefers to call me 자기, she said 당신 was a totally acceptable alternative in a relationship. The term literally means something along the lines of "dear one" after all.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Language is not a big barrier...compared to the culture, value, life style differences,etc between two people.

That's why after spending long time in Korea dating foreigners, now it is really hard for me to go back to men from my own country.

Don't give up, OP.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
Language is not a big barrier...compared to the culture, value, life style differences,etc between two people.

That's why after spending long time in Korea dating foreigners, now it is really hard for me to go back to men from my own country.

Don't give up, OP.


Seeing anyone at the moment? Wink
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