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Max Baucus - fascist-socialist, greedy, kleptocrat
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jaykimf



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Fox wrote:

That said, nothing in the article convinced me of mises' original claim (that we don't get the government we deserve). The book claims that the unscrupulous will be more successful in a system tending towards Totalitarianism, but I'd instead say the unscrupulous will be more successful in a society of politically unaware and indifferent citizens. It would be hard to convince me that said citizens don't deserve exactly who they get.

Maybe I'm just heartless, though.


Hayek discusses party politics and who rises, no? Maybe your condensed version doesn't include it.

Hayek is a Nobel laureate, btw. His work on markets, monetary policy and similar are extremely important in non-voodoo circles.



mises wrote:
I don't know what a Nobel means other than a handful of Swedes found reason to like you.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
mises wrote:
Fox wrote:

That said, nothing in the article convinced me of mises' original claim (that we don't get the government we deserve). The book claims that the unscrupulous will be more successful in a system tending towards Totalitarianism, but I'd instead say the unscrupulous will be more successful in a society of politically unaware and indifferent citizens. It would be hard to convince me that said citizens don't deserve exactly who they get.

Maybe I'm just heartless, though.


Hayek discusses party politics and who rises, no? Maybe your condensed version doesn't include it.


Well, Rusty provided an unabridged copy in his last post, so when I have some time I'll page through it.


Mises' "Liberalism" is much better, in my opinion
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaykimf wrote:
mises wrote:
Fox wrote:

That said, nothing in the article convinced me of mises' original claim (that we don't get the government we deserve). The book claims that the unscrupulous will be more successful in a system tending towards Totalitarianism, but I'd instead say the unscrupulous will be more successful in a society of politically unaware and indifferent citizens. It would be hard to convince me that said citizens don't deserve exactly who they get.

Maybe I'm just heartless, though.


Hayek discusses party politics and who rises, no? Maybe your condensed version doesn't include it.

Hayek is a Nobel laureate, btw. His work on markets, monetary policy and similar are extremely important in non-voodoo circles.



mises wrote:
I don't know what a Nobel means other than a handful of Swedes found reason to like you.


context? Was it on an econ thread or one related to the nobel peace prize?

Regardless, I think Mises was merely saying he's mainstream, and not some obscure, random economist.

And they are Norwegian Mises Wink.
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DIsbell



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baucus is a slug; he's not a socialist though. He's a corporatist blue dog. Real progressives/socialists/leftists have run pressure on him for his rejection of a public health option.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/09/pccc-hitting-baucus-in-montana.html

etc and so on
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