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Dexter Season 4 finale discussion **spoilers!**
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crash bang



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But why does it feel worse that it's rita?

Rita represented and was the main part of everything that was good and right in Dexter's life. She evolved from being a mere "cover" to someone that he genuinely loved and lived for, and thus we cared for her. His family was slowly becoming the one thing that had more meaning than his "dark passenger", and I believe that many of us had hoped that maybe someday the light of their presence in his life could completely take the place of his twisted obsession.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see that ending at all; I never would've predicted it. The writers of that show are brilliant: even though I know it isn't real, Rita dying actually makes me a little sad.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot what season, but Dexter tried to compare himself once to a comic book character called "The Dark Avenger"- it looks like it might come true.
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simonandmartina



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was completely crushed by the season finale. Even though Rita annoyed me because of her always speaking in a sexy-come-hither-whisper voice, I liked what she meant to Dexter, even though he was a dick to her in season 4. After watching the finale I had to sit there for a few minutes in shock.

I don't think Arthur Mitchell's family is going to have anything to do with Dexter. If they do, the series will wrap up entirely too quickly. I'd think, from a writer's perspective, that those paths aren't going to cross anymore. The writers are probably going to be more focused on Deb discovering Dexter in the end, while maybe spending a season on Quinn finding Dexter out and Dexter offing him as well.

I also think that the writers are going to focus on Harrison's path, because of his similar blood-birth to Dexter.
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crash bang



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also think that the writers are going to focus on Harrison's path, because of his similar blood-birth to Dexter.

We don't remember anything when we're that young. He shouldn't be affected by it at all.
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NovaKart



Joined: 18 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's probably going to be a custody battle between Dexter and the Grandma who if I remember right we last saw in season 2. I think Dexter will feel extremely guilty for coming into the kids' lives and then his obsession with the Trinity killer causing their mother to be killed. So, maybe he will not fight the Grandma getting custody.

This could allow Dexter to have more freedom but to add more drama and stay true to the character they might have Dexter fight for at least Harrison. Maybe he could get a babysitter and there would be some conflict with the babysitter getting suspicious but of course she wouldn't have room to be as nosy as Rita not being his wife.

It's also really suspicious that Dexter was in the house so maybe this will cause Deb to find the whole truth about Dexter.

I think it would be pretty cool if the Mitchell family stayed in the show. There's so much that hasn't been explained about them. I almost wish they'd get their own spin off Razz . well maybe that would be kind of dumb. I'm just so curious about the mother and daughter, they protected their father when Dexter was about to kill him. And I wonder how much his family knew about his other life.
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thecount



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ simonandmartina
Never liked Rita either - she was always that nagging element that complicated things when he was in the middle of killing someone (or getting away with it). But it was also shocked when she died. This may be the writers getting "back" at the fans.
"You said you wanted her dead? Well NOW SHE IS! Careful what you wish for!" or something along those lines.

@Nova

Completely forgot about the Mother-in-law. Those are the scariest villains around. Perhaps she will feature. A custody battle certainly ups the ante and brings out the monster in most people.

The Mitchell family is almost certainly gone, though. There just isn't reason enough to give them more time in another season, save perhaps the first episode to help as a tie-in. When the "bad guy" of a season is eliminated, they kind of disappear (other than the occasional reference or flashback).

We've seen Dexter go up against his reflection (brother), his passion (Lyla), his friend (Miguel) and his 'mentor' (Trinity). I think the new antagonist will have a new element. Perhaps...people at Miami Homicide start being targeted, and he ends up fighting for his friends, rather than himself? We'll have to wait and see.
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simonandmartina



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought about it more last night: it's gonna be hard for Dexter to explain why he found Rita so late. Where was he the whole day? In the trunk of Trinity's car, but how's he going to explain that? Wonder if Quinn will be suspicious about it, because

a) he accused Dexter of being a womanizer
b) Masuka told Quinn about Leah (or whatever her name was from Season 2
c) he saw Dexter at a nightclub

Also, he could find out that Dexter was arrested and picked up by Rita on the day of her murder. Or am I getting the days confused?
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seonsengnimble



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there may be some suspicion about dexter, I think he will easily be cleared of her death. I think the voice mail messages and call histories will easily clear some things up. why would he come home to kill her if he thought she was in the keys?
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thecount



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hope that they don't spend too much time with the new season on tying loose ends from the old one.

the biggest loose end is still the "kyle butler" thing - Arthur's family WILL be questioned up and down. And the dude who pulled a knife on their father, as well as showed up urgently RIGHT BEFORE swat came in...that should be brought up. There aren't too many people of dexter's unique description in Miami.

I hope both matters are dismissed in an offhand and summary way that explains it all.
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecount wrote:


the biggest loose end is still the "kyle butler" thing - Arthur's family WILL be questioned up and down. And the dude who pulled a knife on their father, as well as showed up urgently RIGHT BEFORE swat came in...that should be brought up. There aren't too many people of dexter's unique description in Miami.




Couldn't Dexter just say that he was doing some vigilante work, and took the name Kyle Butler to protect Miami Metro? Maybe he could say he got concerned since his sister's life was threatened from the previous shooting, and got interested in the Frank Lundy case to help out his sister. I guess he could get in trouble with his workplace for that since he was withholding information or something like that, but I don't see why he couldn't get off easy.
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daniel-andersson



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecount wrote:
Some thoughts:

I don't think it was an "out of cycle" killing. I mean, Arthur didn't get the little boy, but we can assume that he killed Rita five days later, ja? Which would fit perfectly with his clockwork-like ritual.


In the last episode the police did found another 10 years old kid at the same place. You could see that he had been dead for a few days... So it fit perect with the cycle. Also, the whole seasons have been about Dexter trying to stop the cycles, so I think the end with Dexter own cycle "restarting" is just perfect. Both Dexter and Arthur had the same choice, escape or follow their codes. Both made the same decision. I think that was the thing Arthur refered to at his death bed. The episode would btw been perfect for a last season....
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Spike



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel-andersson wrote:
thecount wrote:
Some thoughts:

I don't think it was an "out of cycle" killing. I mean, Arthur didn't get the little boy, but we can assume that he killed Rita five days later, ja? Which would fit perfectly with his clockwork-like ritual.


In the last episode the police did found another 10 years old kid at the same place. You could see that he had been dead for a few days... So it fit perect with the cycle. Also, the whole seasons have been about Dexter trying to stop the cycles, so I think the end with Dexter own cycle "restarting" is just perfect. Both Dexter and Arthur had the same choice, escape or follow their codes. Both made the same decision. I think that was the thing Arthur refered to at his death bed. The episode would btw been perfect for a last season....


No, no, no you fool...

That kid's corpse was the kid that started the last cycle (where this season started!)... no kid has been found for the Rita cycle yet .. doubt there even is one...
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blackjack



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spike wrote:
daniel-andersson wrote:
thecount wrote:
Some thoughts:

I don't think it was an "out of cycle" killing. I mean, Arthur didn't get the little boy, but we can assume that he killed Rita five days later, ja? Which would fit perfectly with his clockwork-like ritual.


In the last episode the police did found another 10 years old kid at the same place. You could see that he had been dead for a few days... So it fit perect with the cycle. Also, the whole seasons have been about Dexter trying to stop the cycles, so I think the end with Dexter own cycle "restarting" is just perfect. Both Dexter and Arthur had the same choice, escape or follow their codes. Both made the same decision. I think that was the thing Arthur refered to at his death bed. The episode would btw been perfect for a last season....


No, no, no you fool...

That kid's corpse was the kid that started the last cycle (where this season started!)... no kid has been found for the Rita cycle yet .. doubt there even is one...


Dexter saved the kid that was meant to be the start of this cycle, remember he pulled him out of the wet cement
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Spike



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, but he could've killed another kid to re-start the cycle.. or as I think, he just killed her out of cycle to piss of Dexter.. no pattern...
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