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New Engagement Wave - (gender equality)
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I know anyone who didn't plan to get engaged before the proposal. In fact, most women I know go with their men to pick out the ring. It's not really a risk anymore unless you are super old school style amd don't discuss it in advance. Which, if you were, we wouldn't be having this discussion regarding the need for gender equality, would we?

I also think $5000 is more than necessary. You really want to impress her? Spend $3000 and use the rest on a weekend getaway to pop the question.
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really really really want to impress her, be with her in a mutually supportive relationship where both you and she work to achieve your goals until you can both afford your own jewelery.
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prideofidaho



Joined: 19 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aboxofchocolates wrote:
You really really really want to impress her, be with her in a mutually supportive relationship where both you and she work to achieve your goals until you can both afford your own jewelery.


Bingo.
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Pink Freud



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't marry any person who needed a ring.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boo on the Rolex.

Yay on the Ring.

Nothing wrong with some old-fashioned cheese like the engagement ring and all that. What's $5,000? (or more or less) You only live once and one way or another that money will be spent on silliness. Might as well have it go towards some of the few things that truly means something- Marriage, Family, and Love. As kids we all dreamed about that silly, cheesy stuff. No need to get all adult about everything.

Rings can look nice, it's something to talk over, and the whole proposing thing gives you a nice story.

I do think that it IS a bit silly and maybe people shouldn't spend as much or should focus on all the adult things and that.

Still, the whole engagement and proposal moment is one of those moments that make life great and worth living. Nervousness, Confidence, Love, Tenderness, Relief, Satisfaction, Anticipation, etc. All the good things. With the ring (or any other token) you always have all those feelings and images ready to come back with a simple look at her/your hand, from that moment until your last breath on Earth.
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hellakitty



Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when 2 people are in love they are supposed to want to do nice things for each other? It shoudn't feel like an obligation to get a ring! I would definitely buy my man a little engagement bling if I thought he would like it.

I would never, ever accept a proposal without a ring, because quite frankly I am worth a hell of a lot more than $5,000.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellakitty wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when 2 people are in love they are supposed to want to do nice things for each other? It shoudn't feel like an obligation to get a ring! I would definitely buy my man a little engagement bling if I thought he would like it.

I would never, ever accept a proposal without a ring, because quite frankly I am worth a hell of a lot more than $5,000.


I never thought of the ring as the purchase price for my hand or whatever, thinking of it that way creeps me out. Then again, my parent's marriage was the happiest I've ever seen, and mom got an engagement ring on her 25th wedding anniversary. When dad proposed, he gave her luggage, and they ran away shortly after to get married.
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ChocolateStarfish



Joined: 08 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you OP make a fair point.

Everytime I look at the $5000 dollar bling on my finger I feel a little bit guilty. Guilty because WE could have spent that money on something more important.

When I say we, when you are a couple, the money between the two counterparts, especially when those two are getting married, is shared anyway. So even though HE bought it, it was with OUR money. Because once married, that's 5000 less dollars he has to start OUR life off together.
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellakitty wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when 2 people are in love they are supposed to want to do nice things for each other? It shoudn't feel like an obligation to get a ring! I would definitely buy my man a little engagement bling if I thought he would like it.

I would never, ever accept a proposal without a ring, because quite frankly I am worth a hell of a lot more than $5,000.


Why a ring? Why not just 10 grand in cash? And what is your husband worth? Nothing? Shouldnt you have to give him cash also or is he "worth" nothing?
So what are you "worth" exactly? Give us a number and then post your photo and let us decide how much you are actually worth.
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any woman (or man for that matter) who gets some sense of validation or self worth by wearing a shiny rock on her finger needs to drastically re-asses her priorities in life.
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sarahsiobhan



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellakitty wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when 2 people are in love they are supposed to want to do nice things for each other? It shoudn't feel like an obligation to get a ring! I would definitely buy my man a little engagement bling if I thought he would like it.

I would never, ever accept a proposal without a ring, because quite frankly I am worth a hell of a lot more than $5,000.


So I guess a lifetime of partnership and loving support from your husband has a value of zero, then?
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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man all this money for what? I'm glad my wife and I are both happy and content without all this avarice.
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jsyoo



Joined: 05 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:
I think you are cheap.
Laughing
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at Tiger Woods, he spent so much on his wife, she still knocked teeth out of his mouth... Sad
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