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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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good to see some comments. i found the �� sound a little tricky until i watched a korean showing me how to say it. she had a kind of smile on her face and jutted her lower jaw forward. since then i got it. i really am a beginner. i don't know how much of that stuff is explored, watching mouth position. my director was saying there's a style called 'shadow teaching' where the students look only at at your mouth and say things directly after you as you speak. i.e. word after word, not sentence after sentence. i'm not sure it would be effective, but its an interesting idea. my students were also saying that the difference between �� and �� is that you open your mouth a little wider, but that it's not too important.
the real tricky thing for me is not individual sounds, but a string of fast vowels in a sentence �� and �� can get mixed up.
as a music major, or sound designer, i expected to pick up quickly. nawt. |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
1. Don't pronounce simple vowels as though they were diphthongs.
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I don't understand what you mean by this, can you explain further (I looked up what diphthong meant and all  |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
1. Don't pronounce simple vowels as though they were diphthongs.
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I don't understand what you mean by this, can you explain further (I looked up what diphthong meant and all  |
LOL...not being a linguist myself, I can't clearly state what I was getting at with that comment.
But many of us from the U.S. tend to elongate and round our vowels, so that words like "bold" can come out sounding something like "boh-uld" or "hot" as "haw-ut". In contrast, Korean monophthongs, such as ��, ��, ��, and �� generally are pronounced more "purely". |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| I think the problem is mashimoro is that maybe 95% of the foreigners here don't give 2 hoots about learning anything other than survival korean. . |
Eggzaktly. I did not spend 1/2 my life learning French to the point that the French teacher (a native) at my last college in Pusan thought for 6 months I was also a native of French, so I could learn this $*&^$#$%^&*.
I don't care what country I am in. I have a BA an MA and a PhD minor in French. I have achieved a very high level of proficiency in a second language, and that is ENOUGH. |
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