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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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 Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:36 am Post subject: Re: hehe |
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International school Home room teacher =) in a fantastic country making fantastic money 3X more than in Korea.
1/10th the cost of living
Housing= 2br House with a yard and maid
New puppy
new motorcycle
4mths vacation
and a [Mod Edit] load of savings...............
yea life after Korea ROCKS...........
only regret is I didn't bounce earlier = ) |
I am curious which country you are working in. 3x of what I made back when I was in Korea would be over 9mil won a month...
Let's say you were on 2mil a month, 6mil is still more than any country with 1/10th the cost of living of Korea is paying for new teachers.
I work in an international school and have looked at all the packages of the various schools in Asia. NONE are paying starting teachers (new to that school) what you claim you are making.
Oh, and I am a homeroom teacher as well. Though, that doesn't require much in terms of duty at the HS level. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Public Sector job in my home country.
Managing the consulting agency I started while in Korea.
My main job deals with Korea, Japan and now China and requires a few trips abroad per year. Funny thing (well not funny ha ha) is that I ended up with this job in my home country due to an accident (hit and run) that left me on the sidelines for a few months...I had a public sector job lined up in Seoul for my country's government..fate intervened.
I do miss teaching however and have loked into possibilities of picking up a class or two for continuing education...a few universities here have approached me for their English as a second language programs.
So..your time in Korea can be quite rewarding if you play your cards right and are willing to improve, learn and work hard. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Lostone7 wrote:
International school Home room teacher =) in a fantastic country making fantastic money 3X more than in Korea.
1/10th the cost of living
Housing= 2br House with a yard and maid
New puppy
new motorcycle
4mths vacation
and a [Mod Edit] load of savings...............
yea life after Korea ROCKS...........
only regret is I didn't bounce earlier = ) |
3x more than Korea with 1/10th the cost of living may mean his or her pay just goes further than his or her pay did in Korea.... |
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Lostone7
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: He he |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Lostone7 wrote: |
International school Home room teacher =) in a fantastic country making fantastic money 3X more than in Korea.
1/10th the cost of living
Housing= 2br House with a yard and maid
New puppy
new motorcycle
4mths vacation
and a [Mod Edit] load of savings...............
yea life after Korea ROCKS...........
only regret is I didn't bounce earlier = ) |
I am curious which country you are working in. 3x of what I made back when I was in Korea would be over 9mil won a month...
Let's say you were on 2mil a month, 6mil is still more than any country with 1/10th the cost of living of Korea is paying for new teachers.
I work in an international school and have looked at all the packages of the various schools in Asia. NONE are paying starting teachers (new to that school) what you claim you are making.
Oh, and I am a homeroom teacher as well. Though, that doesn't require much in terms of duty at the HS level. |
Ok HS would be nice  for sure as you don't have them ALL day! I am working on getting secondary certified. Currently I have my primary certification with an ELL endorsement. I would love your set up you got me there!!
And yes I did make 2.3mil won a month (Epik) and I paid and extra 150,000won a month extra for a decent 1 bedroom apartment as I couldn't stand the boxes they liked to put teachers in  SO, I brought in about 2.1 after taxes and health etc., then minus 150k So as you pointed out about 2 is about right.
SO 6million won = (When I left Korea) = 4800USD month
You must have been to the Fairs right? 4800USD total is pretty right on really
 Also, Never said I was a new teacher either.
But here are a couple of schools HIRING NOW that are pretty close to what I listed and have the cost of living and the benefits etc. PLUS they are in amazing locations!!
Bali International School Indonesia
Address:
PO Box 3259
Denpasar, Bali 80227 Indonesia
Website:
http://baliinternationalschool.com
Salary:
$31,000 to $43,000
Benefits:
Highly competitive, tax free US$ salary, excellent housing and Professional Development funding, International Medical insurance, shipping allowance, airfare to home of at beginning and end of contract, tuition for dependent children, One year interest-free car loan.
Updated:
03/29/2010
Overseas School of Colombo Sri Lanka
Address:
Pelawatte, PO Box 9
Battaramulla, \ Sri Lanka
Website:
http://www.osc.lk
Salary:
$28,000 to $54,000 net
Benefits:
Round-trip transportation, housing, professional development, international health insurance, mid-contract R&R . School pays all tax so salary is net. shipping allowance,
Updated:
03/05/2010
Thai-Chinese International School
101/177 Moo 7, Soi Mooban Bangpleenives, Samutprakarn 10540, Thailand
Tel: (662) 751 1201-6; Fax: (662) 751 1210
Salary:
$24,000 - $40,000 depending on years of experience and degrees
Benefits:
RT transportation at beginning and end of contract, housing allowance, health insurance, accident insurance, sick leave, housing allowance, free shuttle to and from school AM & PM, optional provident fund contribution, for attendance and evaluation, settling-in allowance.
Tuition for 2 children studying at TCIS is free although there is an annual student supply fee of Baht 15,000 / child to be paid by teacher for education materials, PreK-Gr2 lunch/snacks, insurance, year books, ID card, and graduation. ESL, EIP, CFL fees, extra-curricular activities, summer school, and other special tutoring fees are paid by the teacher.
Professional Development Fund provides $300 US for courses and conference annually,
Contract renewal bonus $1400 (for signing another two year contract)
School will pay visa fees for legal spouse and child/children.
OK here are 3 that I listed now that fit that pretty well..............maybe not 3x more like 2-2 1/2 but look where they are at and look at their cost of living plus this is mid-year when most schools don't need people. These are the leftovers spots from January's hiring season. So schools who didn't pick up all the peeps they needed at the fairs.
SO for me, 3700USD net take home basic salary. PAID in US dollars =)
This doesn't include supplemental classes I choose to teach -can bring in a lot here but not doing any this term so I wont list the income.
700USD housing allowance.
INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL CARE - this is huge !!
Plane tickets
2000USD shipping allowance
1500USD settling allowance
1800USD professional development allowance a year ( I take graduate classes) However, I already have an M.Ed.
4months paid vacation
5% pension matching scheme
5.5% of salary increase per year up to 8 years
free IB workshop training
Add it ALL up pretty close to 3X what I was making
but, OK Ill be fair
My monthly expenditures
400USD month for rent , all utilities, maid, water delivery, English cable TV, internet (admittedly slow compared to chorea)
15USD gas for the bike
75USD month for groceries form the store and fruit & Veggie market ( my maid does the shopping)
150USD to eat out western food, buy western groceries, dog food, and take GF out 4-5 times a week.
The rest is savings and or entertainment. But, local beer is 17cents a bottle.
However I prefer the imported at $1-3.50
SO $4400 USD month subtract 640usd in total living costs and living well. And of course I have a life so I bank about 2-3K USD a month depending on movies, bars, shopping, tailors and of course travel in country and or plane tickets to see concerts in other SE Asia countries!! Like Deep Purple in Singapore next month!! Yeppppppeeeee
Then add in the benefits and pretty darn close to 3X the money I was making as when I left Korea And with 2.1mill a month I spent a heck of a lot more than $650usd to survive =) that's for sure. 
Anyway, wasn't trying to start and argument just saying I was doing well after Korea as was asked. LOL but in truth haven't been on in a while but my kids are on a 4 day sports trip So this week is unusual in that I have a lot of free time But in truth I am really busy at school most days.
I was feeling nostalgic and was reading the Daves 
Cheers :wink |
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Lostone7
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: One more thing |
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Oh one more thing!
I in NO WAY was insinuating my job was easy
I do earn my cash! I don't sit on my butt for half the day like I did in Korea!
But, I couldn't stand that anyway.
I work a full day! Real cash = Real work period. ( kids do go to specialist classes so i am free then ............kinda ) I try to grade then
I have to grade daily
Do weekly reports
Weekly behavior reports
Weekly lesson plans - I teach 5 subjects
Term reports
Report cards
Parent teacher meetings
Parent info sessions
Reading benchmarks each Term so 4x a year
Test prep
literacy blocks
staff meeting
professional development classes usually based on IT
sit on a committee
SO yea I am doing very well but I do earn it! But, I like what I am doing! I like the kids and I like the country so days fly by between vacations! as I never teach more than 7weeks without a least one week off.
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: One more thing |
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| Lostone7 wrote: |
Oh one more thing!
I in NO WAY was insinuating my job was easy
I do earn my cash! I don't sit on my butt for half the day like I did in Korea!
But, I couldn't stand that anyway.
I work a full day! Real cash = Real work period. ( kids do go to specialist classes so i am free then ............kinda ) I try to grade then
I have to grade daily
Do weekly reports
Weekly behavior reports
Weekly lesson plans - I teach 5 subjects
Term reports
Report cards
Parent teacher meetings
Parent info sessions
Reading benchmarks each Term so 4x a year
Test prep
literacy blocks
staff meeting
professional development classes usually based on IT
sit on a committee
SO yea I am doing very well but I do earn it! But, I like what I am doing! I like the kids and I like the country so days fly by between vacations! as I never teach more than 7weeks without a least one week off.
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International School jobs are NOT easy, that is for sure. I miss the days of doing nothing during my breaks because my preps for the week were done on Monday and the rest of the week was easy in that regard.
Did you answer somewhere in there which country you are in?
Were you by chance in Manila for EARCOS? |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| Started my own business; www.i-gate.ca. Been fairly successful, but this year should be an amazing year. |
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Lao Wai
Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm teaching Grade Four in the public school system in Canada. While I wouldn't go back to Korea, I occasionally miss the lack of responsibility I had there. I find teaching here takes over a lot of my evenings and can be stressful at times. The holidays and benefits are good though. I'm heading to Europe this summer...woo hoo! |
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Platinumrose
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| Many people in Shanghai have moved on from teaching english into other professions but I guess not many teachers do that in Korea. |
Yeah, I`ve noticed that too. I don`t know if they are inept or just lazy, but most of them stay in the ESL ghetto. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm doing my B.ed - High School speciality.
Next year I'll be doing one of the following,
-teaching here in Canada
-teaching at an international school
-starting my own business with my S.O in Korea.
And I definitely miss the relaxed and stress free evironment of teaching English in Korea - but it was time to move on. It'll be interesting to see how I feel about teaching once I'm done with practicum because practicum is the equivelant of hell (only 7 more weeks to go!) |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm doing my B.ed - High School speciality.
Next year I'll be doing one of the following,
-teaching here in Canada
-teaching at an international school
-starting my own business with my S.O in Korea.
And I definitely miss the relaxed and stress free evironment of teaching English in Korea - but it was time to move on. It'll be interesting to see how I feel about teaching once I'm done with practicum because practicum is the equivelant of hell (only 7 more weeks to go!) |
I totally agree on your last point. After teaching for nearly 10 years, it really got to me that I was working my butt off and NOT getting paid for it. Also, people who had been teaching about the same amount of time as me were VERY critical of anything that wasn't their style of teaching.
I am at an international school now and I don't make lesson plans until 10-11pm every night like I did while doing practicums. No one does.
(This is because I don't need to make shock and awe lessons for kids on drugs or with cronic ADHD. I can actually expect my kids will do their homework or read the pages I ask them to read for their assignments. Good luck with that in most Canadian classes...especially the non-University stream classes. I feel good not having to be a clown. I thought leaving Korea the first time would get me away from that. HELL NO.) |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Many people in Shanghai have moved on from teaching english into other professions but I guess not many teachers do that in Korea. |
Yeah, I`ve noticed that too. I don`t know if they are inept or just lazy, but most of them stay in the ESL ghetto. |
Probably due to the restrictive visa laws. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes jobs in Korea better than teaching English are hard to come by because Koreans are about as interested in a westerner being successful as a Chelsea fan is in Man United winning the premiership |
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Kang-aji
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
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| I'm teaching children to read back here in the the States. It's good work. |
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