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jvalmer
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| reactionary wrote: |
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| I guess it really is pedophilia. |
At 14 it doubt it's pedophilia. Pedophilia is pretty rare, look up the term. I think hebephilia, or ephebophilia, is the word you are looking for. |
OK - I misused the Greek term, but it's the common parlance of the times. You knew what I meant. Any opinion on what I said besides semantics? |
One is pre-pubescent, the other two are pubescent or post-pubescent but could still be in the teen years. Just wanted to point out that an attraction to pre-pubescent kids is rare. But using the term pedophile in a wider context makes it sound more common than it actually is. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| reactionary wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
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| I guess it really is pedophilia. |
At 14 it doubt it's pedophilia. Pedophilia is pretty rare, look up the term. I think hebephilia, or ephebophilia, is the word you are looking for. |
OK - I misused the Greek term, but it's the common parlance of the times. You knew what I meant. Any opinion on what I said besides semantics? |
One is pre-pubescent, the other two are pubescent or post-pubescent but could still be in the teen years. Just wanted to point out that an attraction to pre-pubescent kids is rare. But using the term pedophile in a wider context makes it sound more common than it actually is. |
Yes, I know exactly what you meant. Fine. Child molestation. Legally under 18 is a child in the United States - even if they are "mature" middle schoolers. Besides, we aren't all psychology majors. I'm pretty sure in law enforcement, people who commit sexual crimes with those under the age of consent are labeled pedophiles....but like I said, you win that battle of semantics. |
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Olivencia
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| An ephebophiliac is a legally ambiguous term to classify someone as in that it encompasses ages that are of legal consent in various places. |
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SteveJobs
Joined: 12 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I wish one of my middle or high schools teacher looked like that. No way I'd rat her out if I was getting some. Holy cow.
"No I don't remember any such acts" |
gross you must be kidding, that chic is fugly she looks like inbred trailer tra$H |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:17 am Post subject: |
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gross you must be kidding, that chic is fugly she looks like inbred trailer tra$H |
For a gay guy, you have really high standards for women.  |
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madoka
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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it is a bigger deal when the man does it, because the man is (should be) the dominate sex in the society. so it is inferred that the man tricked, manipulated, or forced the woman to do something.
however a 30-attractive female, when is any teenage boy going to say when offered sex? enough said. |
What's funny are the comments by the different sexes. Women have been leaving comments about how the teacher is a child predator, a pedophile, a child molester, etc.
Men, on the other hand, wistfully wonder why they couldn't have this woman as their teacher back in the day.  |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I wish one of my middle or high schools teacher looked like that. No way I'd rat her out if I was getting some. Holy cow.
"No I don't remember any such acts" |
gross you must be kidding, that chic is fugly she looks like inbred trailer tra$H |
You might want to google her. That pic isn't the most flattering of her if memory serves. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
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it is a bigger deal when the man does it, because the man is (should be) the dominate sex in the society. so it is inferred that the man tricked, manipulated, or forced the woman to do something.
however a 30-attractive female, when is any teenage boy going to say when offered sex? enough said. |
What's funny are the comments by the different sexes. Women have been leaving comments about how the teacher is a child predator, a pedophile, a child molester, etc.
Men, on the other hand, wistfully wonder why they couldn't have this woman as their teacher back in the day. |
It's just different with a male teen. I'll try to explain, with my reasons.
I think one of the reasons there is a double standard is that the teen boy is assumed to have no responsibility if pregnancy occurs. The older woman will willing take care of a child by herself. Just my guess.
Another reason is that guys are horny and we know what we would have done at that age and probably wouldn't have been traumatized. |
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Kaypea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Wouldn't a boy be traumatized if he fell in love with his first lover, but it had to be all secret? Or, would it not matter? I don't know. |
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Street Magic
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| Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
| MattAwesome wrote: |
it is a bigger deal when the man does it, because the man is (should be) the dominate sex in the society. so it is inferred that the man tricked, manipulated, or forced the woman to do something.
however a 30-attractive female, when is any teenage boy going to say when offered sex? enough said. |
What's funny are the comments by the different sexes. Women have been leaving comments about how the teacher is a child predator, a pedophile, a child molester, etc.
Men, on the other hand, wistfully wonder why they couldn't have this woman as their teacher back in the day. :lol: |
It's just different with a male teen. I'll try to explain, with my reasons.
I think one of the reasons there is a double standard is that the teen boy is assumed to have no responsibility if pregnancy occurs. The older woman will willing take care of a child by herself. Just my guess.
Another reason is that guys are horny and we know what we would have done at that age and probably wouldn't have been traumatized. |
We need to track this student down and give him his luckiest boy in America medal right away.
I think the easiest explanation for the "double standard" is that the female role in sex is reception, not penetration. I know there are always contrarians who'll try to claim women can be rapists too or that young men can be pressured into doing stuff they don't want to, but it takes some serious mental gymnastics to try to make that basic disparity irrelevant. Some people are just pot committed to the concept of "equality" and will apply it to ridiculous situations for the sake of forced consistency. I mean, does anyone think Stephen Hawking is inferior because no sensible person would consider him capable of rape? Does anyone think a chimpanzee is superior because it could easily overpower a full grown man? The biological role of women in sex really shouldn't be treated as an issue of social equality. You can accept women as social equals without needing to pretend they're physically identical to men. |
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SteveJobs
Joined: 12 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
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gross you must be kidding, that chic is fugly she looks like inbred trailer tra$H |
For a gay guy, you have really high standards for women. |
of course I have really high standards for beauty, I'm a gay man/small time model! I'm also a Mac head, and well, that speaks for itself lol. |
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mc_jc
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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From what I've noticed- this is becoming quite common~ Female teacher- male student relationships.
My question; where were these teachers when I was in school?
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
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I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I'm irritated by the double standard, that it's a big, smutty joke when boys are intimidated or pressured into sex by older female teachers.
On the other, yes, I think there's some times when we need to put aside our abstract theories on equality because they don't help us accurately see what's going on. There's a part of me that wishes I had teachers like this too.
I can't pretend to know what these sexual encounters are like, but perhaps there is something fundamentally different in the power dynamics and in the nature of young men. Generally, for young men to have sex with older women isn't physically painful or damaging, and probably isn't humiliating or psychologically scarring. I'm not saying that never happens, but it's different from a young girl's situation or that of a boy with a man. There's also a difference between a teenage boy and one who's eight.
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You can accept women as social equals without needing to pretend they're physically identical to men. |
That's true. I guess the problem is in determining where these teacher-student events are abusive and where it's somewhat consensual. I'm not in either case condoning them, or suggesting that because they're less serious than male teacher-teenage girl relationships they're not serious at all. |
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jiberish
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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reminds me of the south park episode
niiiiiceeee |
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