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Welsh Canadian
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Location: taking a ride on the magic English bus
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:24 am Post subject: |
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My god, has no one been out drinking in Seoul before? When every restaurant and bar looks the same, it's quite easy to get lost. Granted, it would have been better to have exchanged numbers first, found a closer bathroom or used the alley, but sometimes, things happen.
I know I have gone out with friends before and didn't pay attention to the building I entered when we sat down for drinks. After going out for smokes, I've had to call one of them to figure out where we were eating/drinking.
This is like calling someone a moron for losing their wallet. Yeah, the person should have been more careful with it, but sometimes you just aren't thinking and stuff happens. I'm sure the people you were with have gotten over it. |
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Gibberish
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I totally agree with that, I just think the issue I and others originally took with the OP is that it seemed like he gave up too easily on these people. It's similar to you saying that someone last their wallet, but then gave up after looking around for 20 seconds and went home. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| I was worried when the guy said he can't use chopsticks. I think my family went for Chinese food maybe 3 times a year in Canada and I had mastered the kebab skewers as he called them by about age six. |
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CapnSamwise
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: |
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some dudes just aren't as coordinated. for instance i cannot for the life of me snap my fingers, but i can contact juggle just about anything that isn't on fire*
*FOR NOW |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you who have very good experiences- do you see yourselves being here 5,6,8, or even 12 or more years?
Yes, there are many great things about Korea and the people are awesome once they get to know you and you get to know them. But for many expats, especially those who seriously want to stay in Korea for the long-term, Korea has the potential to wear a person down.
Yes, Korea might be an awesome short-term experience, but I strongly doubt many of you boasting about great experience in the short time (I mean 2-3 years~ that is a short time) plan to stay in Korea for the long term.
Many of those who are complaining (such as myself) have been here 8+ years and know our way around the country. It is this knowledge of Korea that causes many old timers to complain- one of the biggest is, "Why don't I get the respect I deserve after being here so long?"...although it is not worded as such, but the context is there. The short answer is; because YOU are a foreigner.
When a poster mentions the "honeymoon period"- it is not the first several months of living in Korea, it is the period of prosperity and relative calm before they experience their first major incident.
When it happens, their first thought is "It shouldn't have happened to me."
and they are quick to cry and are all up in arms about the injustice they experienced.
I am not saying it will happen to everyone, but if you stay in Korea long enough, it might.
And this is coming from a person who has been here, on and off, for almost 20 years. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you who have very good experiences- do you see yourselves being here 5,6,8, or even 12 or more years?
Yes, there are many great things about Korea and the people are awesome once they get to know you and you get to know them. But for many expats, especially those who seriously want to stay in Korea for the long-term, Korea has the potential to wear a person down.
Yes, Korea might be an awesome short-term experience, but I strongly doubt many of you boasting about great experience in the short time (I mean 2-3 years~ that is a short time) plan to stay in Korea for the long term.
Many of those who are complaining (such as myself) have been here 8+ years and know our way around the country. It is this knowledge of Korea that causes many old timers to complain- one of the biggest is, "Why don't I get the respect I deserve after being here so long?"...although it is not worded as such, but the context is there. The short answer is; because YOU are a foreigner.
When a poster mentions the "honeymoon period"- it is not the first several months of living in Korea, it is the period of prosperity and relative calm before they experience their first major incident.
When it happens, their first thought is "It shouldn't have happened to me."
and they are quick to cry and are all up in arms about the injustice they experienced.
I am not saying it will happen to everyone, but if you stay in Korea long enough, it might.
And this is coming from a person who has been here, on and off, for almost 20 years. |
How about those of us who have been here for a decade or more and enjoy the place?
Korea (just like every other country) can only wear you down if you let it.
You can sit in a bar and complain about the locals or you can do something else. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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How about those of us who have been here for a decade or more and enjoy the place?
Korea (just like every other country) can only wear you down if you let it.
You can sit in a bar and complain about the locals or you can do something else. |
True- there are a few that are as you described. But they are few in numbers and they tend to stay because of family.
What about those who have stayed here without family; what other motivation do they have to stay? |
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teecee
Joined: 18 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I totally agree with that, I just think the issue I and others originally took with the OP is that it seemed like he gave up too easily on these people. It's similar to you saying that someone last their wallet, but then gave up after looking around for 20 seconds and went home. |
I think you reacted a bit prematurely to his post. He indicated that he looked around, that he tried to find the place for some time. |
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teecee
Joined: 18 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| mc_jc wrote: |
For those of you who have very good experiences- do you see yourselves being here 5,6,8, or even 12 or more years?
Yes, there are many great things about Korea and the people are awesome once they get to know you and you get to know them. But for many expats, especially those who seriously want to stay in Korea for the long-term, Korea has the potential to wear a person down.
Yes, Korea might be an awesome short-term experience, but I strongly doubt many of you boasting about great experience in the short time (I mean 2-3 years~ that is a short time) plan to stay in Korea for the long term.
Many of those who are complaining (such as myself) have been here 8+ years and know our way around the country. It is this knowledge of Korea that causes many old timers to complain- one of the biggest is, "Why don't I get the respect I deserve after being here so long?"...although it is not worded as such, but the context is there. The short answer is; because YOU are a foreigner.
When a poster mentions the "honeymoon period"- it is not the first several months of living in Korea, it is the period of prosperity and relative calm before they experience their first major incident.
When it happens, their first thought is "It shouldn't have happened to me."
and they are quick to cry and are all up in arms about the injustice they experienced.
I am not saying it will happen to everyone, but if you stay in Korea long enough, it might.
And this is coming from a person who has been here, on and off, for almost 20 years. |
mc_jc, since you've been here so long, fair enough, I reckon you've got a right to complain. Did you meet someone and marry? I imagine that's what it must be as I can't imagine why else one would be in a country so long and be so frustrated for any other reason. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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I can't stand Korea because...
There are always groups of shadowy figures huddled around playing cards
all restaurants look the same in Korea
every street and restaurant looks the same
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you can sometimes be surprised by Koreans |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| mc_jc, since you've been here so long, fair enough, I reckon you've got a right to complain. Did you meet someone and marry? I imagine that's what it must be as I can't imagine why else one would be in a country so long and be so frustrated for any other reason. |
LOL!
Nope- though I have to admit, that I was married once, but that would've caused me to leave, hehehehe!
What has kept me here so long?
I had been to many places and contemplated moving on- but when I step outside my apartment and see what I have here, I realize that I found my niche.
I complain bitterly in my posts- but it is to show people that Korea is not perfect. But neither are our homecountries- which is why many of us left in the first place. I see and experience so much that no matter how much I am deeply in love with being here, that I need to point out that- yes, this DOES happen in Korea.
I could totally take the stance of an apologist- but I believe that to truly express both the good and bad that is part of being here, we need to discuss the bad as well.
Most of us are university educated- so critical thinking, dedective reasoning is a good way to find out about the problems that we and others face in Korea in addition to how we handle it.
My question to the above poster- why does a person have to be married to stay in Korea for a long period of time?
Why do I have to be married to complain about what happens here?
It seems to be a very common misconception that a person who has been here as long I have has to be married.
Could I be here because I geniunely love being here? |
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teecee
Joined: 18 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| mc_jc, since you've been here so long, fair enough, I reckon you've got a right to complain. Did you meet someone and marry? I imagine that's what it must be as I can't imagine why else one would be in a country so long and be so frustrated for any other reason. |
My question to the above poster- why does a person have to be married to stay in Korea for a long period of time?
Why do I have to be married to complain about what happens here?
It seems to be a very common misconception that a person who has been here as long I have has to be married.
Could I be here because I geniunely love being here? |
Mc_jc - I didn't think you HAD to be to complain, but I thought if you thought you weren't accorded sufficient respect, that perhaps you wouldn't be here that long. I assumed. You obviously can criticize the country - hell - anyone can, I just get real tired of kids "straight off the boat" so to speak, who are here and are complaining right away about Korea and how such and such a thing isn't as good as where they come from.
I'm just surprised you're not married, or involved, or something. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Why do you lot keep complaining? |
Perhaps they get it from the ajosshis.
Seriously, sit in e.g. a PC bang for 20 mins. The constant whining, bitching, swearing, moaning, cursing and complaining hurts the ears after a very short time.
Koreans are by and large miserable. (mostly the guys). |
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| People bitch on daves because they have no where else to vent. |
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