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Ji
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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As was lost in the Mac vs. PC, Cost vs. Price, etc, the original listing was revised about 3 times to account for the typo of nVidia 9800m vs. 9400m, to clarify that it was the unibody aluminum macbook and not a macbook pro, and a few minor typographic errors.
I've no issue with mistakes or earnest questions but what should be a buy/sell listing became something more appropriate for the technology forum.
Even I admit to being a bit chippy as I became exasperated that what should have been a classified ad became anything but.
Though but my opinion, and there seems to be a lot of those floating on the internet, I feel that the buy/sell/trade forum should be focused on the task at hand. Opinions or things that distract from the ad seem a bit rude to the original poster. I've asked or pointed out typos on ads in the past, but try to keep it via PM only now to keep the original posters ad as clean as possible and focused on the task of selling/buying/trading. |
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dgove
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I love these people actually.
Look dude, you are 2,700,000 won for a computer, and you didn't even list the correct stats. I highly doubt this was a "typo." If you are asking that much for something, get it freaking right dude. Don't assume that your computer just happens to have a great video card on, click on that apple icon in the top left corner and CHECK!!! Maybe a $20 dollar heater or something, and you type the wrong wattage, but a laptop that is 2,500 DOLLARS is ridiculous for you to be bitching about people correcting you.
This post was brought to you by a 3 year old Macbook. Still runs as great as the day I bought it, virus free. Love it. |
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Ji
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| dgove wrote: |
I love these people actually.
Look dude, you are 2,700,000 won for a computer, and you didn't even list the correct stats. I highly doubt this was a "typo." If you are asking that much for something, get it freaking right dude. Don't assume that your computer just happens to have a great video card on, click on that apple icon in the top left corner and CHECK!!! Maybe a $20 dollar heater or something, and you type the wrong wattage, but a laptop that is 2,500 DOLLARS is ridiculous for you to be bitching about people correcting you.
This post was brought to you by a 3 year old Macbook. Still runs as great as the day I bought it, virus free. Love it. |
Once again my point is proven...
First lets fix your typo. It's Look dude you are ASKING FOR 2,700,00 won.
As to what you highly doubt, while I'm sure your investigative prowess is remarkable, nothing was hidden. Before the listing spiraled into what it's become, the original post was edited 3 times. Now what was it that you said about assumptions?
I wasn't asking for 2.7 million. That's your powerful deductive work at play from careless skimming of the thread. And it's not the correction that was the concern, it's more that it brings pointlessly droll people who enjoy internet anonymity and have a drum to beat to what should be a buy/sell type ad. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ji wrote: |
| dgove wrote: |
I love these people actually.
Look dude, you are 2,700,000 won for a computer, and you didn't even list the correct stats. I highly doubt this was a "typo." If you are asking that much for something, get it freaking right dude. Don't assume that your computer just happens to have a great video card on, click on that apple icon in the top left corner and CHECK!!! Maybe a $20 dollar heater or something, and you type the wrong wattage, but a laptop that is 2,500 DOLLARS is ridiculous for you to be bitching about people correcting you.
This post was brought to you by a 3 year old Macbook. Still runs as great as the day I bought it, virus free. Love it. |
Once again my point is proven...
First lets fix your typo. It's Look dude you are ASKING FOR 2,700,00 won.
As to what you highly doubt, while I'm sure your investigative prowess is remarkable, nothing was hidden. Before the listing spiraled into what it's become, the original post was edited 3 times. Now what was it that you said about assumptions?
I wasn't asking for 2.7 million. That's your powerful deductive work at play from careless skimming of the thread. And it's not the correction that was the concern, it's more that it brings pointlessly droll people who enjoy internet anonymity and have a drum to beat to what should be a buy/sell type ad. |
To be fare, a grammaticel misteak on a internet post is quiet a bit less of a isshue then missrepersenting wat u r tring 2 seel... |
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Kreation
Joined: 01 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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^lol
and for anybody who's interested, I paid 1,000-1,200 last august for a NEW macbook pro with the same stats. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
^lol
and for anybody who's interested, I paid 1,000-1,200 last august for a NEW macbook pro with the same stats. |
Now here I have to defend the OP. It really doesn't matter what anybody paid in the US for a comparable machine. The only thing that matters is how much a comparable machine costs in Korea, right now. People love to bring up how cheap things are in the US when lowballing sellers here, but that is irrelevant. If you could buy it for cheaper in the US, then you should do so. If you can't buy it from the US or choose not to do so, then you can't even bring up the US price when making offers. |
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Kreation
Joined: 01 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
^lol
and for anybody who's interested, I paid 1,000-1,200 last august for a NEW macbook pro with the same stats. |
Now here I have to defend the OP. It really doesn't matter what anybody paid in the US for a comparable machine. The only thing that matters is how much a comparable machine costs in Korea, right now. People love to bring up how cheap things are in the US when lowballing sellers here, but that is irrelevant. If you could buy it for cheaper in the US, then you should do so. If you can't buy it from the US or choose not to do so, then you can't even bring up the US price when making offers. |
..you do realize that there are apple stores in korea right?
http://www.apple.com/kr/macbookpro/
my pro was bought when they had the university promotion, however it seems that new models are marked up on average $220.
I would understand and justify a markup for said new items (due to shipping and tax regs), however trying to add a so called "exotic foreign item premium" on a used model doesn't seem honorable.
tldr; comparable price is comparable |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Fixed so people don't start asking where they are. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
| tatertot wrote: |
| Kreation wrote: |
^lol
and for anybody who's interested, I paid 1,000-1,200 last august for a NEW macbook pro with the same stats. |
Now here I have to defend the OP. It really doesn't matter what anybody paid in the US for a comparable machine. The only thing that matters is how much a comparable machine costs in Korea, right now. People love to bring up how cheap things are in the US when lowballing sellers here, but that is irrelevant. If you could buy it for cheaper in the US, then you should do so. If you can't buy it from the US or choose not to do so, then you can't even bring up the US price when making offers. |
..you do realize that there are apple stores in korea right?
http://www.apple.com/kr/macbookpro/
my pro was bought when they had the university promotion, however it seems that new models are marked up on average $220.
I would understand and justify a markup for said new items (due to shipping and tax regs), however trying to add a so called "exotic foreign item premium" on a used model doesn't seem honorable.
tldr; comparable price is comparable |
I'm not sure what you're looking at, but when I go to http://store.apple.com/kr/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro?mco=MTY5NjUyMjE and look at comparable Macbook Pros, the price range is currently 1,750,000 - 2,150,000 won. So, no, you can't buy one for 1,000 - 1,200 right now. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
| tatertot wrote: |
| Kreation wrote: |
^lol
and for anybody who's interested, I paid 1,000-1,200 last august for a NEW macbook pro with the same stats. |
Now here I have to defend the OP. It really doesn't matter what anybody paid in the US for a comparable machine. The only thing that matters is how much a comparable machine costs in Korea, right now. People love to bring up how cheap things are in the US when lowballing sellers here, but that is irrelevant. If you could buy it for cheaper in the US, then you should do so. If you can't buy it from the US or choose not to do so, then you can't even bring up the US price when making offers. |
..you do realize that there are apple stores in korea right?
http://www.apple.com/kr/macbookpro/
my pro was bought when they had the university promotion, however it seems that new models are marked up on average $220.
I would understand and justify a markup for said new items (due to shipping and tax regs), however trying to add a so called "exotic foreign item premium" on a used model doesn't seem honorable.
tldr; comparable price is comparable |
Furthermore, there is nothing honorable or dishonorable about selling products for any price (as long as your customer is informed). You sell for what the market can bear. If products cost more in Korea, you sell for a higher price in Korea. Please leave your fantasy land and rejoin us in reality. |
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Kreation
Joined: 01 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:17 am Post subject: |
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..i'm sorry?
not exactly sure what the misunderstanding is here.
i'll reiterate.. as stated in my post, i took advantage of the university promotion they had at the time to purchase the pro for said price.
What's 1.7 mill converted to usD? depending on your source its $1500 - $1550.. which is a $200-$250 markup from the us listed price of $1199. The markup would encompass the shipping and duty tax for the item.. Apple is entitled to the convenience fee, you however are not.
Are you going to argue that you, the seller of a used macbook would charge an equal if not greater markup? I mean.. did you pay those fees? Wouldn't that be a misrepresentation of initial price paid? Is it not greed that compels you to squeeze every penny from the "market" aka clueless korean dude?
some would and some wouldn't
I guess it boils down to a difference in opinion.
now if you'll excuse me ghandi stole my snickers bar. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
..i'm sorry?
not exactly sure what the misunderstanding is here.
i'll reiterate.. as stated in my post, i took advantage of the university promotion they had at the time to purchase the pro for said price.
What's 1.7 mill converted to usD? depending on your source its $1500 - $1550.. which is a $200-$250 markup from the us listed price of $1199. The markup would encompass the shipping and duty tax for the item.. Apple is entitled to the convenience fee, you however are not.
Are you going to argue that you, the seller of a used macbook would charge an equal if not greater markup? I mean.. did you pay those fees? Wouldn't that be a misrepresentation of initial price paid? Is it not greed that compels you to squeeze every penny from the "market" aka clueless korean dude?
some would and some wouldn't
I guess it boils down to a difference in opinion.
now if you'll excuse me ghandi stole my snickers bar. |
So if somebody purchases a Macbook Pro in Korea they can sell it used for 1.5 million, but if that same person purchased it in the US they can only sell it for 1.2 million? Why? The person you are hypothetically selling it to is probably aware that there is a markup in Korea. They are still getting a deal on a used machine because it costs less to buy a used machine than to buy a new machine. You are free to underprice everything you sell used, but let me say it again: you can't compare prices for things sold in the US and things sold in Korea. Feel free to continue to be a self-righteous jerk, but you aren't going to change anything.
To illustrate my point, I will explain what transpired when I sold my laptop. I asked for 2.7 million. The guy countered with 2.0 million and I said that was too low. Then he said, "but I can get a brand new one for $2,500 in the US" and I said "okay." Then he thought about it, and realized that we aren't in the US and he thought "Hmmm. I can buy a new laptop in Korea for 3.6 million, or I can buy a used one for 2.3 million. The price of a laptop in the US is irrelevant. I guess it would be a good idea to buy the used laptop rather than the new Korean laptop and save 35% of the cost of a new one."
Does that strike you as bad in any way? Was the person who purchased my laptop uninformed? Obviously not. He realized that it was a good deal in Korea since he couldn't beat that price elsewhere in Korea. Do you understand yet?
Now, why wouldn't I charge a higher price? Should I just eat the $200-$300 potential difference from selling my laptop because I paid less for it? In case you aren't aware, most buyers of luxury items (and arguably, a 3.6 million won computer is a luxury item) aren't being forced to buy it. A sale is an equitable exchange of goods (or services) for money (or goods or services). If the buyer wasn't benefiting from the purchase, he wouldn't make the purchase. Perhaps you didn't take Economics when you got your college degree, but this is basic stuff. I was not selling my laptop as a charity. I was selling it because I wanted to upgrade, so I wanted to get as much money as possible for it. In fact, I was hoping that I could get even more money for it! And you know what? My buyer was free to not purchase the laptop if he felt the price was unreasonable. So there you have it. A fully informed purchaser still paid 2.3 million won for my laptop. Nobody was deceived. What is it to you? Why do you care how much somebody paid for my laptop? Don't you have your own life to worry about? Is this some sort of weird jealousy? You don't need to be jealous. I don't earn more than the regular hagwon employee. In fact, I probably earn less than average. So if you want to, you can buy an expensive laptop too. There you go, no need to feel jealous. I hope that makes you feel better. |
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Kreation
Joined: 01 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: |
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whoa there buddy, lolumad?
a bit defensive are we? sorry to say but not everything is about you. I could understand why you lumped yourself as one of those I disapprove of but why don't you take some yoga, maybe drink some tea.
the way i see it, i was stating my opinion, not slangin petty names at others. jerk? really? are you 5? |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Kreation wrote: |
whoa there buddy, lolumad?
a bit defensive are we? sorry to say but not everything is about you. I could understand why you lumped yourself as one of those I disapprove of but why don't you take some yoga, maybe drink some tea.
the way i see it, i was stating my opinion, not slangin petty names at others. jerk? really? are you 5? |
I am neither angry nor defensive. I was just trying to explain why I think your opinion is stupid. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, however. I will wait for your rebuttal (however, I will have to view it tomorrow because it is now past my bed time). |
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