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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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Gord said: And with that brilliant advice, how do you suggest they get another work visa?
By applying for another job. Once they have served there term of notice and handed in their ARC upon departure, this automatically mandates immigartion to cancel the E2 visa and to question the owner as to why they were not notified as to the change of status of the teacher. Owners are not getting it all their own way anymore. An LOR though handy is not a an absolute for getting a new job. The unfortunate fact of life in dealing with immigration in Korea is there are no absolutes. What works or worked for you may not work for me.  |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| By applying for another job. Once they have served there term of notice and handed in their ARC upon departure, this automatically mandates immigartion to cancel the E2 visa and to question the owner as to why they were not notified as to the change of status of the teacher. |
This is wrong. Immigration would have no knowledge of the notice, and would only know that you turned in an ARC card and left the country. When the application came in for another E2 visa, they would say "but he's still on the ticket for the first place until ....". Unless someone came up with a very convincing story why they should give you a new work visa, the decline will be automatic until the first one expired and the very polar opposite of what you claim to be true.
Don't try to tell me how Immigration "really works" with stories like yours because I work with Immigration once a week. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Gord:"I work w/Immigration once a week."
You might've mentioned that before but if you did I missed it. I'm sure your legion of adoring fans(one of whom is this poster, of course)would love to know the circumstances behind that. Are you a recruiter?! |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Mosley wrote: |
| You might've mentioned that before but if you did I missed it. I'm sure your legion of adoring fans(one of whom is this poster, of course)would love to know the circumstances behind that. Are you a recruiter?! |
I'm not a recruiter, though a friend of mine is. As for Immigration, my ending up there is the same reason I ended up working at a academic high school once a week. Both because I've done a moderate amount of government work in the past and because of that I tend to end up being drafted into other government projects.
I came to Korea to relax. Now I stay for the adventure. |
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Chopstix
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: Nowon Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:57 am Post subject: so the final answer is...... |
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| I am hearing some contradictory information here. If what I hear is correct I could be screwed if the only reason I want toleave my jb is that I am sick (literally) from working so many hours a week! If I cannot get a release then am I screwed until my E2 runs out next January? If this is the case then the reference to 'slaves' may be somewhat true. I know this is a harsh word but do you really have to stay in the same job if you are aware of better opportunites more suited to your skills and expertise? I don't hate living here in Seoul but I wish we had a little more power in terms of work conditions and enjoying the experience living in a country where you can have time to immerse youself in the culture and have a 'relaxing' time as GORD stated. |
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shawner88
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:31 am Post subject: |
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You don't have to suffer, man. I've been there and done that. I quit my first job 3 months in. On the way out, I handed overmy Alien Reg. Card. I went to the Korean Embassy in Japan and applied for a C--3 tourist visa, then came back. Depends on where you're from too. This visa gives Americans 90 day multiple entry visas and is good for 5 years. If you're from Canada, I guess just leave and come back and get 6 months, lucky a-ole.
At this point you can either work under the table, which is not hard. I'm doing it now and have been for over a year but only because I got sick of getting trapped, not because I have to. Your other choice is to just try to get another job legally. Turn in the paper work and there's a 75% chance you'll have no problem. Just tell your new boss the story up front. It worked for me 3 times. PM me if you have more to ask. I'll help you as much as I can.
I feel like I'm running some sort of underground railroad here. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: |
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As gord, Homer and Urban myth rightfully state: there are no restrictions upon you in this warm and hospitable country. If you want to get a new job, its a simple and straightforward matter of being open and honest with your boss. koreans are decent people, and they appreciate advance warning and honesty. So long as you're truthful and considerate, your boss won't mind, and he'll pay you everything he owes you. Its not unusual for them to throw soju parties for prematurely departing foreign staff.
Simply find a new job, and start it. Its no problem, as the aforementioned posters say. Listen to them, they've been here a long time and know what they're talking about.
Stop worrying, you've nothing whatsoever to lose. Nothing can go wrong, don't listen to your hyperactive imagination.
If any teachers have had problems in this area of changeing jobs before, its almost always because they've been bad teachers. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha, ha! Rapier, that's bit of a minor classic there.... |
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shawner88
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
As gord, Homer and Urban myth rightfully state: there are no restrictions upon you in this warm and hospitable country. If you want to get a new job, its a simple and straightforward matter of being open and honest with your boss. koreans are decent people, and they appreciate advance warning and honesty. So long as you're truthful and considerate, your boss won't mind, and he'll pay you everything he owes you. Its not unusual for them to throw soju parties for prematurely departing foreign staff.
Simply find a new job, and start it. Its no problem, as the aforementioned posters say. Listen to them, they've been here a long time and know what they're talking about.
Stop worrying, you've nothing whatsoever to lose. Nothing can go wrong, don't listen to your hyperactive imagination.
If any teachers have had problems in this area of changeing jobs before, its almost always because they've been bad teachers. |
I almost fell off my chair over this and was ready to start bashing until I got the the soju party part and saw who was posting it. Good one, man. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I never got a soju party???????????
Rapier, that was pretty scathingly sarcastic. i don't think things are that bad but just using common sense and being on your guard are probably the best advice you could give anyone. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| i guess I was in a sarcastic mood last night, heheh... the funny thing about these forums is that I think some posters actually argue points they don't actually believe themselves. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
As gord, Homer and Urban myth rightfully state: there are no restrictions upon you in this warm and hospitable country. If you want to get a new job, its a simple and straightforward matter of being open and honest with your boss. koreans are decent people, and they appreciate advance warning and honesty. So long as you're truthful and considerate, your boss won't mind, and he'll pay you everything he owes you. Its not unusual for them to throw soju parties for prematurely departing foreign staff.
Simply find a new job, and start it. Its no problem, as the aforementioned posters say. Listen to them, they've been here a long time and know what they're talking about.
Stop worrying, you've nothing whatsoever to lose. Nothing can go wrong, don't listen to your hyperactive imagination.
If any teachers have had problems in this area of changeing jobs before, its almost always because they've been bad teachers. |
Hey I haven't posted in this thread yet. But I agree with everything you say. Glad you have seen the light. 
Seriously though, you might want to read Gord's posts in this thread again. He was saying it is NOT that easy. As for myself, I think you are referring to another thread, in which the topic was "Is the E-2 visa slavery" as opposed to THIS thread in which the topic appears to be "how can I get a new job?"
Bottom line: I and Homer and Gord have never said living in a different country was easy. We did say the E-2 visa is nowhere near the level of slavery. We also suggested ways to make life and work in a foreign country easier. But most people don't want to make the effort, and would rather complain and moan. So Mr. Rapier if this bothers you, I'm sure any company in the West would welcome you with open arms, as you are an enlightened, self-proclaimed competent individual. And I'm sure you would much rather work there then in Korea where you have to be a "slave". So WHY are you here anyways? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Urban myth: i'm here because I'm a white person that can no longer live decently in the s**thole that my country of origin, Zimbabwe, has become.
I have a passport to England but can't bear to live there.
Australia deported me for overstaying my visa there.
I'm here because there are a few things I appreciate about it. I enjoy Asia as a whole, the challenge of living in a different place, the relative ease of finding a relatively well paid, easy job to suit:
But I reserve the right to complain about anything I dislike or find to be less than satisfactory.
Granted, Korea is not bad compared to many other places. But that doesn't mean, it couldn't improve. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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But I reserve the right to complain about anything I dislike or find to be less than satisfactory.
Granted, Korea is not bad compared to many other places. But that doesn't mean, it couldn't improve. |
Thats quite normal Rapier and also quite acceptable.
Of course it al depends on what you categorize as satisfactory or non satisfactory. |
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