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CanadaCommando

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Location: People's Republic of C.C.
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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You've got nothing to worry about by doing a runner, legally. At least so the Canadian Embassy told me. If they (being immigration) try to hold you at the airport call them I was told (or your appropriate embassy as the case may be)
If your boss is an ass, I would totally worry bout giving notice. I almost pulled a runner, felt guilty, and gave notice and got screwed outa a month then and there. Took it to labour relations, and now god knows where the complaint went.
You dont gotta run right away anyway-you have 10 days from the Termination of Employment (ie. you not showing up) to get out. Just crash at a buddies. Probably less messy to slip away right away though.
If ya dont have your alien card (which I stupidly left behind) it will cause ya a bit of hassle. Got stuck in a small room with 2 angry men from immigration grilling me till I asked to contact my embassy. So make sure ya just drop er off. |
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Korea Newfie

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
| If you can trust your boss, but plan to leave for other (non-urgent) reasons, then give 30 days notice. |
Hmmm... Yes. If you can completely trust him, and he's demonstrated in the past that he cares about you and has helped you, etc., then yes, give notice. Don't screw over good guys.
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| On the other hand, you could put your boss to the test. Give him 30 days notice, then see how he reacts and how he treats you. |
I don't really agree with this. If he does decide to go sour, then it could turn into a game of who can screw who first. You don't need that, especially from a dude on his home turf. |
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Kristsoy
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: i agree |
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| i agree with mr. pink that notice of even 1 day is a really really bad idea |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:53 am Post subject: |
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CanadaCommando wrote,
I almost pulled a runner, felt guilty, and gave notice and got screwed out a month then and there. Took it to labour relations, and now god knows where the complaint went.
Unfortunately, this happens too much.
Joerg Baruth, a pastor, said, "Koreans must treat their foreign workers humanely and improve Koreans' image before it's too late."
Baruth said, "I can't understand how the Korean government makes foreign laborers do difficult work based on Korea's economic needs while refusing to protect them." Of the countless foreign workers he has met, 60 percent have appealed to him to help with late wages. http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200403/200403290020.html |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:45 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to to further reinforce that opinion.... if your boss is an a$$hole then forget about giving notice!
Even "nice" bosses, who seem totally honest and fair, who don't get on your case, pay you on time in full, who always seem friendly, who'll buy you dinner sometimes and ask if things are OK, if your apt. is OK etc.... may try to rip you off, to give you as little money as they can when it's time for you to go, all with a smile and a pat on the back! All under the name of "business" I guess. So definitely don't give notice to someone who is not "nice" at all!
That's my opinion and experience anyway.
They were good at this "nice" act in Taiwan too! Don't trust when it comes to your money. |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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How about this...because even if a school is treating you like crap, it's hard to just run on them if you are anethical person...even if they are not ethical!
I might run, but not as a mystery disappearence. Give them "proper" notice, send it courier, even...from Incheon airport on your way out! Just write "I resign this position effective immediately."
No legal standing whatsoever, but might make those of us who have to do the right thing to sleep at night rest a little easier. |
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Korea Newfie

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
...even if a school is treating you like crap, it's hard to just run on them if you are anethical person...
(giving notice) might make those of us who have to do the right thing to sleep at night rest a little easier. |
Funny, I'm a very ethical person, and if I was getting srewed, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't screw him back.
I've been screwed out of money by two previous employers here, and I'm constantly thinking of what I should have done to get back at them. If I'd paid them back, then, I'd be resting a little easier. |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Don't give 30 days you will make it just as bad for the next teacher.
These pricks need to be taught running is a great way but be sure to mail a photo of you with a note extneding best wishes once your out
Don't mind Homer-he has good intentions but his being the resident apologist isn't clear to newcomers not familiar with Dave's cafe
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Never give the 30 days because they will make your life hell and cause you more stress. The midnight run is a sham. You can leave in the middle of a pleasant afternoon while your classes are about to begin. There is no secrecy involved. Nobody can force you to teach English. If your situation is that bad, leave. Always remember that you have to look after yourself first. Never sacrifice your own health for a corrupt director. Walk to the airport...no need to run. |
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kidcharlemagne
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| my first boss was a complete jack*ss, so i just left after work in the middle of the week. i left food in the fridge and papers and junk in the room. he was the owner of the apt, so scr*w*ing him over on his place and the job made me fee like a million bucks. i took the train down to busan and the boat to fukukua. i kept the alien registration card as a souveneir. while in japan, i got a new visa at the korean embassy and came back to seoul four days later. that was seven years ago but i doubt much has changed - or... possibly alot has changed and they'll give you hell when you come back in. but either way, just go. |
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Bubbliee
Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Location: Kelowna, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: i agree |
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| Kristsoy wrote: |
| i agree with mr. pink that notice of even 1 day is a really really bad idea |
I so much agree with this. A friend of mine gave notice at a school he was at and was screwed royally. That same day while he was teaching his classes the school sent someone over to his apartment and changed the locks. They then held all his stuff hostage, including his passport that was in his apartment trying to get him to agree to withdraw his notice. Luckily he remembered that one of his windows was unlocked in his apartment and he was able to get back in once. He was only anle to grab a couple things, like his passport. When he went back the next day to grab some more stuff the window was locked. Now none of that makes sense to me. If you wanted a teacher to stay why do horrible things to him like that? But hey it's a true story. Helped me keep my mouth shut before I left. |
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hereinkorea
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Well if there's nothing to the whole 'running' process, why do I hear so many horror stories of people getting stopped in Immigration or something and not being able to leave for some reason? Is there any truth to it or is that a load of crap? |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:14 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Barking Mad Lord Snapcase"]If you can trust your boss,
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Lol is there a korean boss out there you can trust? if you are in a situation that sucks there is no way you can trust your boss. If you could trust him/her you wouldnt be planning on a midnight run.
Nuff said |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:17 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Grotto"]
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If you can trust your boss,
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Lol is there a korean boss out there you can trust? if you are in a situation that sucks there is no way you can trust your boss. If you could trust him/her you wouldnt be planning on a midnight run.
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My first scenario was not a direct reference to the OP. Rather, it acknowledged that the temptation to run does not have to be directly related to the workplace (even if it usually is). |
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ryleeys

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Out of curiousity. I was paid on Friday (so the last payday was real real recent). On Tuesday, I plan to make a vacation demand (one straight week off when my father visits)... this will be the first request I have made since I've been here. Basically, if she lets me take the vacation, I'm cool. But if not, I'm outta here.
If I just put everything I own in a bag, can I go stay with a friend in Suwon for a week while trying to find a cheaper plane ticket? Or do I need to pay $2000 and get on the first plane out of here? |
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