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[cubanlord]

[air76]

I think that for purchases of 50,000 won and under you can just go ahead and take the risk...for 100,000 won a simple check on their username should do, see if they've bought/sold things here before, see how long their user name has been around, etc....but for sales of 200,000 won or more I would ask for an email address from someone who has bought from them before....and really, items that sell for 400,000+ really shouldn't be bought sight unseen. Obviously these numbers fluctuate depending on how much money you can afford to lose.

That being said...it really sucks that there are folk ripping other people off and tainting the buy/sell/trade forum for those who aren't.

[madoka]

[Justin Trullinger]

Seems like, with his bank details, there must be something you can do. If you don't speak KOrean, get a friend who does to help you check this out with the cops and or his bank. He's countiing on you not wanting to deal with the hassle- but he is totally catchable if you don't mind going to a little trouble. Do it! YOu waste a little of your time, but hey- if lucky, you may get some of your money back. If not lucky, you can still probably ruin a couple of his days.

But to everybody else- I've bought and sold things online in a lot of different countries. The rules are the same- if you want to sell me something, agree to meet me. If you'd rather do the "transfer and ship" option, fine: Ship me the goods, and I will deposit the money as soon as I receive them.

Sellers always think this is unreasonable. Well, why is it only reasonable for a buyer to take risks? If they won't meet, I won't buy.


Best,
Justin

[cubanlord]

[tatertot]

I was thinking the same thing. It was obvious that I made a mistake, and I hold no hope of getting my money back. This is the first time I have wired money to somebody (I always do face to face) and I immediately thought something was fishy (afterwards, darn it). I can't explain it, but there was just something about the guy that seemed so authentic. Clearly, I am completely responsible for losing my money, and I'm not irate about it. I was really bummed yesterday, but I've already moved on. I'm going to send my information to the guy who was talking about filing a police report, but that's the extent of what I'm going to do (unless the police want to talk, which I will be happy to do). I'm certainly not going to stop buying and selling on this forum. There are a lot of deals to be had, if you keep your eyes open, and it's a good way to sell stuff you don't want/need any more.

The best advice is: never send money under any circumstances! Meet face to face, examine the item, give the money, receive the item.

[Niku]

Ya, pretty much I feel the same way. I don't hold a hope of getting my money back and I feel really stupid for falling for a scam like this. Although in all honesty it could have been worse and at least I did get a pretty good lesson out of it. I felt something fishy too and I'd never wired money either and definitely never will again.

Face to face is the way to go, if you live far... use gmarket or something. I've made online transactions in other countries for years and never had an issue, and this person did seem authentic so I figured just take a chance on it. I kind of had a feeling but I figured I've got his phone number and his bank account info, safe right? Obviously wrong.

Anyways, I'm following the same extent as the above poster, I'm happy to forward my information to the person filing the Police Report and if they want to talk to me I'll be happy to add a voice but I'm not going to go gungho over this and lose any sleep. I definitely still feel bummed about it but I'll get over it, worse things can happen.

[hanguker]

Dang...good luck guys. I hope the police can help you out.

[Justin Trullinger]

[quote]lol, send it to you then get payment? at least with a seller, if s/he has sold before, you can verify their reliability. How can you with a buyer? I'd much rather people pick stuff up, but, a lot of peope live apart from one another and it is much easier saving money and shipping htings.[/quote]

Again, can you verify reliability of a seller? It's usually just a question of some other unidentifiable avatar saying "I bought from him and he's a righteous dude."

I don't expect sellers to see it that way, of course, but to me, it's the same thing. If they don't want to send an item worth 100$ to a stranger on faith, why should I send 100$, also worth 100$, to a stranger on faith? Most sellers seem to understand that this is just plain dumb.

When buyers realize it, fraud is gonna be a lot harder.

Do it face to face, or buy from a real retailer. (They ship, too, but there are a lot more protections in place.)


Best,
Justin

[lifeinkorea]

CLICK HERE if stupid

[wraith1983]

So, I doubt anything will come of it, but I wasn't raised to simply give up...

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2371312#2371312

[espo]

don't let this go...go to the bank and try to sort it out... he's an ass..you shouldn't have to suffer...good luck

[the ireland]

Perhaps a post to a mod might help see if the 'seller' also uses another I.D in this forum. They could check it easily enough by checking for the same I.P address. That is unless he just went to a pc room any time he wanted to be the seller'

sorry you guys got scammed. I won't say what you should have done as I'm sure you are all too aware now. Get onto a mod and see what can be done. There is nothing stopping this guy setting up an account now, becoming a trusted user over the next 3 or 4 months and then perfroming the sting again but this time with a different tactic.

[stephenpoi]

This same username has another computer posted today...check it out...

[darkjedidave]

Anyone remember the dkoryo incident back in December? Ironic that the OP commented on that scam...... ...or is dkoyyo and khg the same person???


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