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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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The fact that the there are so many illegal in the U.S. is no-coincidence b/c this is all being done by design. The Globalists along with the major international banks want to implode the U.S. economy, so they can consolidate the U.S., Canada, and Mexico into the North American Union, just like they did with Europe. The illegals problem is just one of the many method they are using to have this plan come into fruition.
Basically, you have all these illegals come in and take advantage of the welfare system, have anchor babies, work for less pay, etc. They get multiple "metriculus consular" cards that allows them to get multiple welfare payments.
These action greatly hurt the legal citizens of the U.S. along with the economy. On top of that, these illegals are swayed by the politicians and government who want to pass anti-gun laws and such (making use loose our rights), so they can vote illegally.
Then there are these latino groups of "mecha la raza" (google) who want to take back the U.S. and want all other races gone. This ties in with the "Plan of Sandiego" where the Germans wanted Mexico invade the U.S. in WWII. |
lol
how did you get out?! ..get back in your bunker...bad boy!..don't you know the UN is about to invade? |
I don't get it, what does bunkers have to do with it? Please elaborate.  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Speculation like this always takes current statistical trends and assumes it will continue without variation for decades or longer. That's a very big assumption. |
Exactly. Broward County, just north of Miami, saw 3000 students less this year than the year prior. This is because many Hispanics and Brazilians in the South Florida metro are going back to their home nations (and also moving around the US too). I have many friends in the US who are East and South Asian (either immigrants or 1st generation) engineers, accountants and doctors and many are pondering a return home (or to their ethnic home) in the near future. The Chinese call them "returning turtles". It makes economic sense for them. One Chinese-American pediatrician with whom I have beers from time to time took a job in Singapore for more money, with less taxes and no need to use the private schools. Everything is in flux right now. To assume permanence in any trend is foolish. Even the Canadians I know in Seattle and Chicago are leaving.
I really don't believe the trend of inbound migration will continue at anything nearing the Bush years. The housing bubble brought in millions of laborers. It is now gone and they're holding on for amnesty, which won't happen. The standard of living in the US is decreasing. Public services are terrible. Horrible. Wages are trending down. Unemployment is extremely high. The war on drugs in Mexico is about the only thing left that will push them north. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Seoulio thanks for your analysis. It is so useful when a non Ameican comments on America because they know a lot about america abecause they have read books about America written by non Americans. WE who's only knowledge is having been born there lived there really need this input.
this is simple illegals works for less driving down wages. Takes jobs that would have gone to legal immigrants. Often illegals are members of organized gangs. Tremendous stress on social services.
what illegal labor did America use to build itself. slaves? that was a british idea.
But the idea of a majority hispanic poulation is not news, nor does anyone seem to be frightened of the prospect. It might happen but has been pointed out trends change. Look at Mexico's policy and how they use illegal immigrantion to dispose of problems and keep unrest down. |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
Seoulio thanks for your analysis. It is so useful when a non Ameican comments on America because they know a lot about america abecause they have read books about America written by non Americans. WE who's only knowledge is having been born there lived there really need this input.
this is simple illegals works for less driving down wages. Takes jobs that would have gone to legal immigrants. Often illegals are members of organized gangs. Tremendous stress on social services.
what illegal labor did America use to build itself. slaves? that was a british idea.
But the idea of a majority hispanic poulation is not news, nor does anyone seem to be frightened of the prospect. It might happen but has been pointed out trends change. Look at Mexico's policy and how they use illegal immigrantion to dispose of problems and keep unrest down. |
Lol, thanks for making assumptions about my knowledge. You think just because you live in America or are from America you know all about America. oh, ok So you can know something just from living there, I can;t know things from other sources.
Okay thanks tips, you done laying down the validity of my qualifications yet?
You know what else drives down the wages, capitalism, and employers willing to pay illegals outright so they dont just have to ship the entire plant off to mexico in the first place. You don't just get the illegals driving down the wages, and as stated if the government was that concerend there'd be more of a crackdown.
I don't even have to live in America or read a book to understand this simple reality.
Perhaps you should watch some of the flims/read some of the books/talk to some of the Americans etc, that I do and you could grab a clue about your own country.
And I am sorry based on the SUPREME ignorance of this statement
"what illegal labor did America use to build itself. slaves? that was a british idea. " I am not sure I can even take you seriously.
Yeah slavery was a British Idea, its not like it went on into the 1860's and beyond, over a hundred years after you became a country, yeah that was simply a "british idea" yeah and surely slavery wasnt around long before Britain even existed.
Try looking into your own history a bit if you want to tell me that as a Canadian I am ignorant of it.
Much of my life I lived a stones throw from you, watched your shows, watched your news programs etc. On top of the readings and film viewings on America I have the same access to your media as you.
Why would anyone be afraid of a Hispanic population? Does anyone actually think that they could screw up your country any worse than the whites who have ran it for about 250 years? |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Why would anyone be afraid of a Hispanic population? Does anyone actually think that they could screw up your country any worse than the whites who have ran it for about 250 years? |
Screw up for whom, is the better question. 
1. There are a lot of people who would like to live/work/attain citizenship in America.
2. There are few opportunities to legally participate in the above due to regulation/bureaucracy/ninnies.
3. People do the enumerated in number one despite the law and the burden they create for those who are legally there.
How do you solve this problem?
A) Build more walls
B) Card them
C) Out-breed them
D) Provide more opportunities for legal entrance and viable economic opportunities in their countries of origin
E) Eat more fruits and vegetables
The correct answer is C. Hump, whitey, hump like the wind! |
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rollo
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thats funny .38!! +1. Yeah immigrants clean toilets, at first. Irish cleaned toilets, italians cleaned toilets, Jews cleaned toilets. haitians cleaned toilets. cubans cleaned toilets. Then they own the buildings where the toilets are then pay the next wave of immigrants to clean toilets. In a lot of American cities it is amazing the number of Latino owned businesses.
American citizenship was originally paid for in blood, we dont dismiss it so lightly. |
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kwokman
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I highly doubt that there are much "true" Americans left that earned their citizenship through blood. To say that illegal immigrants are causing a huge problem to our nation would be ignorant as a simple look into our history actually shows how our nation has grown into what it is today because of these "illegal" immigrants.
Also, the statement on how illegal immigrants are often members of organized gangs...talk about stereotyping. Might as well say how often whites are extremely racist and have some vendetta against minorities. Why even use the word minorities when talking about different races? Man, for a country that is so wound up on being a diverse "melting pot", it sure does have some major problems.
Oh and before there are any assumptions made about me, I have been living in the states since the age of 2 and have also paid for my citizenship through blood. |
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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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[quote=".38 Special"]
| Seoulio wrote: |
Why would anyone be afraid of a Hispanic population? Does anyone actually think that they could screw up your country any worse than the whites who have ran it for about 250 years? |
Screw up for whom, is the better question.
1. There are a lot of people who would like to live/work/attain citizenship in America.
2. There are few opportunities to legally participate in the above due to regulation/bureaucracy/ninnies.
3. People do the enumerated in number one despite the law and the burden they create for those who are legally there.
How do you solve this problem?
A) Build more walls
B) Card them
C) Out-breed them
D) Provide more opportunities for legal entrance and viable economic opportunities in their countries of origin
E) Eat more fruits and vegetables
The correct answer is C. Hump, whitey, hump like the wind![/quote]
LMFAO |
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FMPJ
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drydell
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| .38 Special wrote: |
| drydell wrote: |
| HalfJapanese wrote: |
The fact that the there are so many illegal in the U.S. is no-coincidence b/c this is all being done by design. The Globalists along with the major international banks want to implode the U.S. economy, so they can consolidate the U.S., Canada, and Mexico into the North American Union, just like they did with Europe. The illegals problem is just one of the many method they are using to have this plan come into fruition.
Basically, you have all these illegals come in and take advantage of the welfare system, have anchor babies, work for less pay, etc. They get multiple "metriculus consular" cards that allows them to get multiple welfare payments.
These action greatly hurt the legal citizens of the U.S. along with the economy. On top of that, these illegals are swayed by the politicians and government who want to pass anti-gun laws and such (making use loose our rights), so they can vote illegally.
Then there are these latino groups of "mecha la raza" (google) who want to take back the U.S. and want all other races gone. This ties in with the "Plan of Sandiego" where the Germans wanted Mexico invade the U.S. in WWII. |
lol
how did you get out?! ..get back in your bunker...bad boy!..don't you know the UN is about to invade? |
I don't get it, what does bunkers have to do with it? Please elaborate. |
sigh....you didn't notice the rabid extreme right-wing conspiracy survivalist-style rantings? or maybe it all seemed perfectly sensible to you...? |
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PenName
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
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The funny thing is that the entire south west of the USA used to belong to Mexico. And it was seized by greedy people who cooked up B*** S*** about "manifest destiny", to justify the theft of land and property.
Mexicans don't cross the border illegally, the border crossed them.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1994/newspain1.jpg |
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stilicho25
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First it belonged to the various tribes that inhabited it. Then Spain took it. Then the Mexicans revolted and took it. Then the US invaded and the people living in the area switched sides and joined the US.
If you read about the invasion of California, the US never actually beat the big Spanish ranchers who owned the land. After a couple skirmishes, the ranchers switched sides.
Its a pretty complex history, and reducing it to an american siezure pretty much misses a good couple hundred years of nasty stuff. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| gangs forced the closing of my hometowns annual hispanic music festival this year, threats and intimidation by gangs forced the organizers to cancel. its not a stereotype to worry about the cartels and gangs. SErious questions how did illegal hispanics help make the country what it is? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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The funny thing is that the entire south west of the USA used to belong to Mexico. And it was seized by greedy people who cooked up B*** S*** about "manifest destiny", to justify the theft of land and property.
Mexicans don't cross the border illegally, the border crossed them.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1994/newspain1.jpg |
Get real. Mexicans aren't illegally crossing the boarder in order to commune with land their ancestors may have governed over for a period of time. They're illegally crossing the boarder to take advantage of interacting with citizens of a wealthier society who are willing to break the law and employ them at higher pay than they'd earn in Mexico. The idea of original land ownership doesn't enter into the equation when considering the issue of illegal immigration. No matter where the boarder was, Mexicans would be crossing it illegally. |
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PenName
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| They're illegally crossing the boarder to take advantage of interacting with citizens of a wealthier society who are willing to break the law and employ them at higher pay than they'd earn in Mexico. |
Wealth built off near slave labour conditions. It's easy to make millions when you exploit your workforce with meager pay and threats of deportations. |
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