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Italy37612
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm gonna have to go with the All Blacks. Mostly because the guy who informed me (and made me a fan) of the game. Was a Kiwi. I don't follow rugby too closely, but when ever the All Blacks are playing I try my best to watch the game. As as far as that above "North American" comment goes. I'm from the US, and I throughly enjoy watching American Football, football, and rugby. |
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NYC_Gal

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nzbradly78
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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That's the Kapo o Pongo. The AB's don't use that one very often. They usually perform the Ka Mate (the original haka from the 1906 tour). The throat slitting gesture has a completely different meaning in Maori culture. Its means you are opening yourself up for haurora, which kind of like the breath of life.
Needless to say its gotten a fair share of criticsm. I didn't get it till the Te Reo teacher at my school explained it. I personally prefer the Ka Mate. Its got a strong history and I like things being kept traditional.
I'm pretty excited to see if the AB's can do the business again on Saturday. It sounds premature, but if the AB's take two off the Boks, that probably seals the trophy for us. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever it is, it's hot <<drool>> |
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Von Ludwig
Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Stop gaying up the rugby thread NYC_Gal
Is it perhaps plausible to believe that the All Black management (or whoever had a say in deciding on doing a new haka and choosing Kapo o Pongo) chose to do it due to the fact that that gesture, without knowing its true meaning, does indeed look like a throat slit? And therefore being more expressive and threatening? Hmm...I think so. Oh and it�s 'Hauora' by the way. Tihe mauri ora! |
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Sleepy in Seoul

Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| nzbradly78 wrote: |
That's the Kapo o Pongo. The AB's don't use that one very often. They usually perform the Ka Mate (the original haka from the 1906 tour). The throat slitting gesture has a completely different meaning in Maori culture. Its means you are opening yourself up for haurora, which kind of like the breath of life.
Needless to say its gotten a fair share of criticsm. I didn't get it till the Te Reo teacher at my school explained it. I personally prefer the Ka Mate. Its got a strong history and I like things being kept traditional.
I'm pretty excited to see if the AB's can do the business again on Saturday. It sounds premature, but if the AB's take two off the Boks, that probably seals the trophy for us. |
Apparently the Ka Mate haka isn't terribly popular amongst some of the Ngai Tahu as it may be thought to be celebrating some of Te Rauparaha's atrocities against them in Akaroa in the 1830's.
I do like the Ka Mate haka because of its tradition but I really like to see the ABs pull the Kapo o Pango out as it means they are ready for business. I agree, nzbradly78, if the ABs can beat the Boks again this weekend, they should be able to hold out for the Tri Nations win. But I still want us to be really hungry for the World Cup next year... |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Von Ludwig wrote: |
Stop gaying up the rugby thread NYC_Gal
Is it perhaps plausible to believe that the All Black management (or whoever had a say in deciding on doing a new haka and choosing Kapo o Pongo) chose to do it due to the fact that that gesture, without knowing its true meaning, does indeed look like a throat slit? And therefore being more expressive and threatening? Hmm...I think so. Oh and it�s 'Hauora' by the way. Tihe mauri ora! |
LOL How is it gay if I'm the one saying it's hot?
Anyway, I love watching it, even though I now know that the throat slit isn't as threatening. I'll pretend that it is, though. Did you ever see the English turn their backs on it? It was priceless. |
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nzbradly78
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, that was pretty awesome stuff there. The AB's weren't on their best, but their quality was just superior in every facet to the Bokkies. Rousseau's card was a little iffy, but there was a lot of the aggro in the test. Rickey Januarie has yet again proved that he is a crap halfback at this level, and Peter de Villiers has proven he's a crap coach for putting him in there. The Boks looked a lot better with Pienaar in. If PdV has a bit of intelligence, Pienaar will be starting against Australia.
Still, fantastic efforts, aside from Dan's goal kicking. 10 points of the blocks, unbelievable. I hope the off-week doesn't knock their momentum. The Tri Nations looks to be pretty handy for us now.
And, NYC Gal gets her Kapo o Pongo with some real intensity. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| The coach has to select Januarie, else the side would look too lily-white. |
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nzbradly78
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I know. Its a shame they have to sacrifice their selections for political reasons. I'm not trying to stir the pot at all. Statistically speaking, though, rugby is still by and large the sport of the whites. When more of their African population gets involved in the youth programmes, then you'll see them being a larger part of the team, based on talent and ability. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Rugby is the sport of the whites, but that doesn't get us off the hook. There's a lot of money, power and jobs in rugby union and politically minded blacks believe it's all up for grabs. They are not particularly interested in rugby per se.
It's a wonder that the team is still so white. One ploy is to have a black coach as in de Villiers to make the overtly white numbers more legit. Then the senior players do the real coaching. They have a lot of expertise and the legacy of the previous coach to go on with.
Starting to catch up with them though, rugby appears to be changing. |
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Von Ludwig
Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Well that was unexpected. The Wallabies certainly did what was required; read the set plays and penetrated the defence on numerous occasions. Elsom and Sharpe led well, controlling the rolling maul and seemingly outsmarting the Springbok forwards at the breakdown. I think de Villiers, while struggling to fall asleep tonight, will realise that changes are needed...and soon.
Spies should take over the captaincy before the world cup.
And van der Merwe en Watermeyer should be in there too, 'n bietjie blou! |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree it was unexpected. First of all, hats off to the ABs and the Wallabies for getting job done. And in convincing fashion.
I have no ideas, nothing to say. It's a trainwreck....sob. |
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nzbradly78
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I though SA would have bounced back. There must be something about Brisbane. I can't believe the Aussie pack didn't get annialated, to be honest.
The Aussie backline looked slick and we're going to have to be really aggressive to keep them from getting too many bright ideas. Shame we couldn't keep Cooper! If he played for NZ, no one would have to watch his...well, insert your own insult here...kicking motion. |
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Sleepy in Seoul

Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Half-time, four tries to one. Come on Blacks, really rub their noses in it!!! Again  |
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